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where did you buy it?

Very. With the 4 elastics (6.5 OZ) the traction is excellent and the headgear fits perfectly on the head.

claude said:

Inspired by Bracedlife video, my interlandi Headgear:

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Very nice! Are you pleased with it?

Very nice! Are you pleased with it?

I think it’s too late.
So, what’s the feel When you have it in your mouth ?
It remain on your roof or it fall dawn?
Can you talk with it?
Is it a bionator?

As an update on the herbst, it's really uncomfortable. My teeth don't touch and chewing is hard. Speaking is very difficult too, and I have a big lisp. My jaw hurts and feels like it's too far forward. Eating has been very hard. I've been going to speech therapy to adjust to speaking and eating with the appliances, and it's helped some.

I had a consult with an oral surgeon yesterday about getting a chin implant. He took photos like at an orthodontist consultation. He said the herbst is improving my jawline, giving me a more distinct jawline and facial profile. That should improve more as the herbst is activated. He said I still have basically no chin and while the herbst is giving me a lower jawline, it would take an implant to give me a chin. He recommended it in order to balance my face and improve my facial profile. He said the procedure shouldn't be too hard to recover from. He will consult with my orthodontist, but recommended doing the implant while I still an in braces, just so more adjustments can be made to the treatment if needed. He may want to do it as soon as in several months. I'll talk to my orthodontist more about it at my next appointment.

One final question about getting dental work while in orthodontic treatment. On Monday, I had to have several fillings. My dentists knows I'm in orthodontic treatment, as he's the one who's been suggesting I do it for a while. It still felt odd to show up with the appliances and I wasn't sure if they could do the fillings. He had to undo the herbst and was able to get the fillings, though the tongue crib was a bit in the way. It was just an unusual experience.

The herbst is very uncomfortable. It is cutting up my tongue and the inside of my cheeks. It's so hard to even swallow without my tongue scratching the expander. My mouth has been very sore, though that's improving a little. My teeth don't touch now, so chewing is very hard and I have to use my front teeth. The herbst only allows my mouth to move a little , so there is so much pressure when I chew. After like 10 minutes of chewing the smallest bite, I try to swallow it, and it all gets stuck in my expander, tongue crib, and in the side of me cheek. The two screws on the bottom cause two bumps on the outside of my mouth to show at my lower lip, especially when I smile, and it's extremely sore. My jaw hurts and I have a really bad lisp and difficulty speaking. I already had a hard time speaking with the expander and crib, but this makes it much worse.

I,ve got my braces at monday.

The ortho,showed me the ceramic brackets. They was very big.
So, i can imagine that would be uncomfortable to wear.

I've got my silver smile, on both upper and lower jaws.

That is the fact for the next year or so, maybe one and a half year, so i just have to got used to it, even thoug the job.


I'm totally agree with you.
Most people dont care. Both if you got braces, and the visibility of the braces.

My braces has been put on recently and I chose ceramic on top and metal on bottom (for now, I Just have top ones). I could not assume the fact of having a silver smile for 1 year or more, especially beacuse of my job.

I nearly immediately regretted this choice because ceramic braces are big and uncomfortables. They clearly are very discrete, invisible from far distance, very difficult to see closer for someone who is not paying attention but they are quite visible for observant people.

And after all, I think most of people don't care if you have braces or not so no matter if they are visible or not.

Thanks for the outfilling information. 

As i wrote, i wont be able to choose what kind of braces i would get.

I'm definately not ready for this, so far.
But, the days count slowly down.

Thanks for support as well

Clear brackets don't actually stain, it is the clear ligatures that stain, unless you eat something that is going to change the colour of your teeth as well. The ligatures get changed every appointment.

As for the visual look, The clear brackets are less visible than metal, and in a lot of cases aren't really that noticeable until a person is close to you. The thing with that is people are more likely to take a much longer look at your mouth while they try to figure out what is 'wrong' with your mouth. With metal brackets, people are able to see that you have braces and just not bother taking a closer look, unless they happen to like the look of braces.

The archwire for both types of braces is the same, although many times the orthodontist will use a white coated wire with clear brackets. Either way the wire will be one of the more noticeable parts of the braces.

In my opinion, if you have braces, they are for the purpose of correcting the bite and it doesn't matter if people see them. Most people won't care and they only person it will really matter to is you. Treat it like jewelry and show it off. It is probably the single most expensive piece of jewelry you will ever buy.

For me, part of the braces experience was being able to change the colour of the ligatures and power chains each visit. If you are worried about maintaining a professional appearance, just stick to plain colours such as silver, grey, white and clear. Even black and dark blue are fine although they do stand out a bit more.

Thanks guys.
I'am really sure that i need that 

This week has been serious nervously.
For now, it is just three days to monday.

I'm surely not ready for this, but at same time, it would be great to fix the teeth as well.

I have thought more about the clear braces.
I asked my girlfriend, about her braces.. If she could make a choice of wich kind of braces she would have.

She got clear brackets and metal brackets to choose about.
She didnt think about it. For her, it was just metal brackets in mind.

Why, i thought?

I've asked her. Why not choose the clear braces?

She had spoke to a friend of her about braces, and the upcoming treatment. The friend had told her to not choose the clear brackets, of two reasons.

One of the reason was the price. It cost a while more here in Norway.

The second reason, was that clear brackets could be dirty, like a yellowed thing, that was not possible to clean, the only option was to change brackets at next wisit??

Does anybody here know something about that? Is that true, or is it just a story?

I can't choose, so for me it is just a question, that i wondering?

Good luck for the metal. As you do not have the choice, it is really easier to accept it.

Best of luck to you buddy and im sure you will not regret your decision in regards to that deep passionate feeling of which we all share on this forum! Fulfill that moment and emBRACE it to the fullest... ; )

Auch für "klassischen" Herbst Geschiebe lst das einstellen der Potrusion möglich, und zwar mit diversen Distanzhülsen, erhältlich von 1-5mm, ich hab mir mal den ganzen Satz bestellt und bin derzeit am probieren was passt, 5mm ist auf jeden fall deutlich zuviel, man muss auch aufpassen das das Seitenverhältnis der Kiefer zueinander passt.  auf das hab ich zuerst nicht drauf geachtet und auf jeder Seite die gleiche Distanz aufgeschoben, nach ein paar Stunden war mein Gelenk mächtig beleidigt.. jetzt hab ichs momentan mit 4mm rechts und 2mm links bzw 3 und 1m, damit ist der Biss genau mittig und der Spielraum nach rechtts und links ist fast gleich null 

wobei die von dir verlinkten natürlich nicht schlecht aussehen.

Hi,

ich würde gerne wissen, ob es möglich wäre, für die Tiefziehschiene Teleskopgeschiebe zu bekommen, bei denen die Protrusion einstellbar ist?

Hier gibt es z.B. welche mit einem Anschlag oder einem Gewinde:
https://www.dr-hinz-dental.de/schlafmedizin/istclassic-teleskope
https://www.dr-hinz-dental.de/schlafmedizin/istclassic-neu-fuehrungsstege

Oder vielleicht diese Variante mit eingebautem Federmechanismus:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...lescopic-rod-is-fitted-into-the_fig1_49829310

Viele Grüße und danke schon mal
Latifah

wow that sounds like quite a mouthful, I sympathise! how are you getting on with the herbst?

I'm in the same situation.

I'll start treatment next week.

I have been thinking about the type of braces I want since November 2017.
I have considered my life every day, what my girlfriend, who also wear braces, would say, what the kids would say, and not least the job. I have daily contact with many people in my job, so I'm not really sure.
But after a brief with ortho, he told me it was just the usual metal braces was the only option for my treatment. He asked if it was a problem for me.

Since then, until February of this year, I have thought, considered and asked my girlfriend about her treatment and how she has dealt with it.
She already has metal brackets.
Since I was a teenager, I have liked braces , all different kind of types.
Particularly metal brackets..

Shiny metal on a man of 38?
LOL ????????

On the following Monday, it happens.
I really not sure, what kind of feeling i have..

But I'm bit scary.

Hi.

I'm 38 years old man.
At the next monday, i will get braces

For my treatment, there was no choice to choose other than full metal brackets.
My mouth will therefor be filled with metal.
I got braces on both jaws, at same time.

But, some questions:

This is my first visit. Is it normally to put on the braces on the first visit?

Is there an chance for this?

If someone also will share they're process, and would like to follow me up during this treatment, you are welcome.

I'm bit scared of my own look, with braces. So, if you have some friendly tips, or want give me challenges to help me, then feel free to write to me.

It's really uncomfortable and difficult to speak with. I also got a herbst now and can't speak. I am going to speech therapy and seeing if that helps.