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@ Braces-Fan
Gratulation for your hardihood and endurance to beginn the treatment.
The photos looks fine.

How long is probable your treatment?

I'm envious, that i dosn't have braces, too.

Hey zusammen.

Ich bin jetzt seit ca. 1,5 Jahren in Behandlung mit fester Zahnspange. Nun steht im kommenden Frühjahr (nach eon paar Jahren Pause) mal wieder ein Skiurlaub an. Letztlich fragte mich eine Freundin, als ich mich mit ihr über den anstehenden Skiurlaub unterhalten hab, ob ich da eigentlich einen Schützer wegen der Zahnspange bräuchte. Gute Frage - dazu hab ich mir gar keine Gedanken gemacht. Jetzt hab ich im mal gegoogelt, aber wirklich holfreich war das nocht. Auf vielen Seiten von Kieferorthopäden steht eine Empfehlung dafür, aber sonst gibt's nicht viel dazu.
Was meint ihr bzw. habt ihr Erfahrungen damit? Wer fährt selbst Ski oder kennt jemanden mit Zahnspange der mit oder ohne Mundschutz fährt. Klar, man kann sich gut ablegen beim Skifahren, aber ich weiß nicht so recht ist das übertrieben oder unterschätze ich die Risiken? Bin mir auch nicht sicher ob ich meinen Kieferorthopäden fragen will. Will mich weder lächerlich machen, noch mir was "überflüssiges" verkaufen lassen.

Bin gespannt eure Nachrichten/Meinungen zu lesen.

Thank, approcate it!
Looks pretty uncomfortable, i will try to look for some other options

I've heard of the bimler but not the aragao. Here's some info I found on what each one can be used for:
-Bimler: http://www.orthocourse.com/portfolio/bimler-technique-4-day-clinical-course/
-Aragao: https://www.orthocourse.com/portfolio/aragao-functional-regulator/

Searching for some treatment options, hoping to find something that is not permanently attched to my mouth

Asked it on a thread already, so trying again here. Iv'e a hopefully slight problem with my jaw alignment and iv'e been searching online for some (hopefully easy) treatment options.
I found an ortho who treats adults without surgery with removeable appliances called ״Aragao" or "Bimlr".
I've never heard about any of the above, and wonder if someone ever heard of that, and knows how it works, and it it can actually fix anything? I can't find much info online, or any pictures of the Bimlr appliance and couldn't find more than one picture of the Aragao (which doesn't look so hideable).

Wow good explanation!

Thanks Anna. How about you? Are you having braces?

Thank you! Yes, Dr. Prince did fine work. Though Carrie didn't really "need" braces, she's thrilled with the improvement in her smile.

Just a quick question- been searching online, and found an ortho who treats adults without surgery with removeable appliances called ״Aragao" or "Bimlr".
I've never heard about any of the above, and wonder if someone ever heard of that, and knows if it can actually fix anything? I can't find much info online, or any pictures of the Bimlr appliance and couldn't find more than one picture of the Aragao (which doesn't look so hideable).

Congrats! Her smile looks amazing

Hallo ihr Allen,

Bin 41 Jahre Jung.. Hihi.. Und ich habe seit 3 Wochen einen feesten Hyrax im OK. Also einen GNE. Es ist in etwa 2 Wochen gewöhnungsbedürftig beim Sprechen und Schlucken. Aber es wird schon. Alles Gute!

Hi you all,

Same here. I'm having a bonded hyrax palatal expander in my upper jaw for posterior crossbite and front crowding. I will be having it for 6 months with a turn each week. After that I'll get a tpa in my upper jaw and fixed braces in both my upper and lower jaw combined with elastics. The whole procedure will take about 3 years and I'm 41. This is my second time in braces. The first time I was eleven and I had a severe over jet. They fixed that with metal braces in both my upper and lower jaw and a cervical headgear wich I had to wear for 18 ours a day.... Which off course I didn't because I was to embarrassed to wear it in public at that time. After that a had to wear a loose retainer for both my upper and lower jaw. I didn't get a wire glued to the back of my theet. Right now I'm dissapointed in myself for not being consequent in wearing my braces as I was younger although that orthodontic didn't do anything about the widenest of my upper jaw. Nevertheless now I decided to get the bonded hyrax to stay consequent to get the best result. Hang in there! Du schaffst Das schon

Hi you all,

Because of my narrow upper jaw, posterior crossbite and front crowding I started treatment last month. I now have a bonded upper hyrax expander. I will have this one for 6 months and then I will get a tpa in my upper jaw and fixed braces in both my upper and lower jaw with elastics. Luckily I won't get a tongue crib or a herbst till now. I recoin that will be a whole lot of metal in your mouth. Getting used to swallow and speak with a hyrax is already a 2 weeks job I found. And with each turn the whole situation changes a bit But it will be all worth it also when you are 40...hihi. Hang in there!

So Carrie had her very final visit to Dr. Prince on Saturday. It was a pretty quick checkup on her retainers (both sets) and teeth positioning. She of course thanked Dr. Prince for his excellent work -- she's still thrilled with her smile -- and said goodbye.

The end of an era!

My wife consulted with seven orthodontists. One of them offered to put her in braces that same day, though she ended up choosing someone else.

Thank you Libtech, appreciate your fast respond!
The crossbite description seems right. Surgery sounds pretty extreme for fixing such a problem, did you have more options? Surgery sounds scarier than braces ????
And what kind of surgery was it?

Sounds like a crossbite. Upper jaw proceeding too far infront of lower jaw is overbite. Lower jaw protruding out any bit of the upper jaw is an underbite (I had surgery correct mine) and of course what it sounds like you nay slightly be dealing with thus being a crossbite where your jaws are mis aligned horizontally from a front facing profile.

Guess you got used to them by now, so any advice won’t help much now 
However, I remember a girl in my school who got braces surprisingly at the same day she went to the ortho for the first time..  so I guess it’s a thing