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Hello again,

heute war mein 4. Kontrolltermin. Auch diesmal war es unspektakulär. Oben wurde ein stärkerer Bogen eingesetzt, unten blieb derselbe drinnen.
Der einzige Unterschied diesmal war, dass mit einem Kleber anscheinend ein Bracket versiegelt wurde. Leider hab ich nicht genau mitbekommen wo.
Der nächste Termin wird im Oktober stattfinden, da wird dann auch die Aktion "4er ziehen" in die Wege geleitet. Vermutlich wird das noch im Oktober sein. Angesprochen auf die Dauer des Lückenschlusses wurde mir ca 1mm pro Monat mitgeteilt. Somit wird es mindestens 8 Monate dauern, bis alles erledigt ist.

Gummis und dergleichen hab ich keine bekommen. Die Stärke des Bogens kenne ich nicht.

Bis zum nächsten Mal...
Joe

I am now 40 and I dared it 7 month ago. Tomorrow I have my 4th appointment there...

Thank you guys so much for responding. I made another appointment for a consultation with an orthodontist that's about 35 miles away from me. I just want another opinion before I start my braces journey.

Thank you for your interesting story. What does IPR mean?

Anyone with a bright or odd color, is it visible to other people when speaking?

Very nice!

The ones I prefer most are:

1) Modified Activator With Pelottes (Blue And Orange)
2) Modified Retainer With Brakets (Green)
4) Double Feed Plate (Multicolor)

But I can tell you that I love them all.

Soon they bought more devices from the shop. I will obviously have them modified.

I prefer to have braces that I can wear in my mouth.

Twin blocks arrived! And headgear! They fit really well. No discomfort, just a big lisp!

Awesome collection! Which is your favorite?

This are All My Braces.

https://ibb.co/album/PsZjgB

The three device in the photo are not for my mouth, but only for collection.

The other devices in the photo are my and fit in my mouth.

The dental catas are my. I have two dental cats of my teeth.

This is the list of my devices that fit in my mouth:

1) Modified Activator With Pelottes (Blue And Orange)

I did make the following changes:
- The upper part of the palate completely closed and thick.
- The lower extension part closed on the front.
- Protective tubes put on the upper and lower arch wire.
- Pads and tubes colored orange.
- Device colored blue and orange.
- Add design of the soccer ball to the upper part of the palate.


2) Modified Retainer With Brakets (Green)

I had these changes made:
- Green color
- The thick upper plate of the palate, covering the entire palate
- Bite plane added to the upper plate. I only took the upper device.


3) Retainer (Pink)
- No modification


4) Double Feed Plate (Multicolor)

I had these changes made:
- Upper plate cover as much as possible the entire palate
- Upper plate a little thicker
- Multicolor upper plate (Green, Blue, Purple,Orange)
- Multicolor lower plate (Red,Green,Yellow)

5) Active Plate (Purple)

I had these changes made:
- Upper plate cover as much as possible the entire palate
- Upper plate a little thicker
- Toungue crib
- Upper plate purple

This are other photo:

https://ibb.co/album/4P2bhD

The brackets do not move, I guess they are welded or glued.

On the brackets there are bubbles as on the real braces.

The bow and the brackets do not put force on the teeth and it should be so.

The appliance is great because you feel like you are wearing a fixed braces.

How rigid (strong) are the brackets attached to the wire? Are they welded or glued? is it possible to change ligatures yourself? Do the brackets feel like they move on the teeth with normal talking, etc? Thanks, they look great.

This is my new fake braces.
https://ibb.co/album/j9zyNw

I bought the Retainer with Brackets.

I had the following changes made:
1) Thicker plate
2) Plate covering the entire palate
3) Green colored plate
4) Biteplane
5) Headgear Tube with cervical and highpull headgear

When you wear it it seems to have fixed braces.

The nice thing about this device is that it also has the plate.

Having plate produces saliva in the mouth.

The biteplane makes it uncomfortable to talk, but in any case even if with some misunderstanding it is possible to talk.

The biteplane prevents the lower teeth from positioning behind the upper ones and prevents the upper teeth from touching.

I also recommend you to try this device is fantastic.

As a color I recommend the transparent plate so you can only see the brakes and the wire of the bow.

Everyone will think that you have a fixed brace and that a fixed brace creates difficulty speaking.

I'll let you know what it feels like to wear the headgear too

That really is a mouthful now. Yes you are right, it is a shame they didnt make the plate cover the palate fully. It is that feeling that I particularly like, although mine could still go back further.
There are certainly enough springs to move things around a bit!
Looks like they keep your mouth much further open than my activator does.
Interesting, isnt it, that you find s sounds a little easier with the thicker plate.
I also found that the bite plate made that easier and a little more 'forward' than the thiner retainer, although I have to be a little more careful to avoid excess saliva.

Three weeks ago I got back the modified braces. Half of my wishes were incorporated. The anterior bite planes are now substantially thicker, but the top plate doesn't go back any further unfortunately. But let's start at the beginning.

Going to the appointment my excitement was immense. After having had the braces for several months now and having gotten used to them, my general excitement for them had started to level off a little. The same could not be said for this appointment. I felt very similar to the first appointment where I initially got my braces. But while I was also quite anxious during that appointment, this time I was able to fully enjoy every last second of it. Already upon entering the treatment room and seeing my models with the thick lower plate I was elated. When I noticed that the upper plate doesn't go back any further and thus won't cover more of my palate, a little disappointment set in. This was due to a misunderstanding between me and the ortho, where the ortho thought I meant that I want the plate to sit closer to my gums as there was a small gap between the plate and my palate. The lab added some plastic to the palate-side of the plate. While not what I originally wanted (and still would like to experience), the significantly thicker upper brace was definitely not an unwelcome surprise. The lab also replaced every spring at the front of both braces. They also added two more springs between my upper canines and premolars. I don't know what those will be for though.
When the ortho inserted the braces into my mouth, the feeling was overwhelming. The way the thick bite planes hold my teeth apart, the noticeably increased thickness of the upper plate, and the now completely different lisp all hitting me at the same time was just incredible. But I needed to concentrate as the thick bite plane needed to be ground to fit my teeth again. At least this time the ortho had ordered red marking tape which she used instead of the blue one which didn't work too well in the past. Accordingly, that part was finished much quicker than during previous appointments.

mattt said:

do you perhaps have the moulds of your teeth?

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I don't have the moulds of my teeth, but I have some six year old moulds from when I got the bruxism night guard made. While the braces don't fit perfectly, I think it's good enough to get the gist of it. Here are new images of the modified plates with and without the moulds:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502240076660746/1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502250570809374/2.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502255184805908/3.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502265091227702/4.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502274654502912/5.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/863502284104269829/6.jpg

Lisp-wise I started fully anew. While s sounds are surprisingly easier now, everything else has regressed significantly. It took me over two weeks until I was somewhat satisfied with my pronunciation again. I still sound muffled and like I'm mumbling with still quite a lisp. It sounds like I'm talking with a full mouth. Which I guess is exactly the case. Talking fast I still trip over a lot of sounds. When concentrating and talking slowly it's okay-ish, but I don't think it'll get much better. But even then there are some hard sound combinations like s followed by sh between which I need to make a pause.

The new tick bite plane seems to relieve all the problems I had with my joints. They don't ache anymore and I don't have any clicking or similar. That really worried me as I didn't have these kinds of problems before getting the braces. But while this means that I'm getting to keep the thick planes, it also means that I'll need to keep the thick planes. Something something double-edged sword.

Treatment progress wise, my upper wisdom teeth are located well now and will only be held / retained from now on. The bottom incisors are de-rotated but still crowded. The ortho said that during my next appointment next week she'll start to perform IPR to get the required space. I'm still not too keen on that to be honest…

The last few weeks I was together with my family which I was a little apprehensive about. They didn't know about my braces yet. When I arrived and mentioned the braces, we talked about them for a few minutes, but that was it. No further question, comment or anything. It's crazy how such a big thing for me results in so little reaction from everyone else. I didn't really trust all the comments on this forum stating the same thing. But it's surprisingly true. Noone else cares. It's only a big deal for yourself.

I think it would be worth it, and would do it if I were in your shoes.

I had braces as a teenager, but now have a few small things that I kinda wish were fixed, but they aren't big and the dentist has never mentioned. If I was single I would ask the dentist about it, but being married I feel like I'd have to get a sense of if my wife is okay with me looking into it and us potentially spending that much money.

2 years of pain for a lifetime of confidence and happiness is well worth it. The only regret you will have looking back is if you don’t, not if you do. People can be dicks to you about it but they are the few and the majority will either not care or think it’s very brave or awesome what you are doing. Don’t do it for anyone other than yourself.

Congratulations. Will be a Great Time in braces, im sure

Hi i'm from belgium too i'm little bit jaleous!