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That is nice to hear. Which are you getting?

I’m getting braces after summer
My bottom teeth are only a little bit out of tune and I asked the orthodontist if it’s possible to get braces on my upper teeth as well just because I like it
I’m from belgium

hmmm anscheinend hat´s noch niemand versucht ...

vielleicht bekommen´s die ersten 3 ja zum halben Preis und müssen dafür Bericht erstatten, wie´s funktioniert 

Wär doch ne Idee oder ?

This is new photo from laboratory. Added the pearl on the activator.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/W30KPqK

@carking thanks for the info. Will wait and see. Not sure the impressions were any good but have to wait now and see. If I can figure out how to link pictures I will. Think it will take a while. It’s mad that you can actually do it yourself

Hope you get them the way you want them.
It will be interesting to see how you find the thick bite plate as I find mine makes speaking easier than the one with less plastic behind the front teeth.
Although I asked for the most coverage possible with mine and the plate went a long way back, I would still like a bit more.
Maybe I will get around to asking for that when I order a new hawley with a tooth on it from the Braces Shop to fill the gap where I had a tooth extracted a few years ago.

Tonight was the first night without any plastic in my mouth since well over 6 years. And it felt weird. But let's start with the appointment 3 weeks ago.

To be honest, not much happened there. A few adjustments here, a little grinding away of material there, and I was on my way again. We were finally able to grind away all parts that pinched my tongue or resulted in sore spots. She removed some plastic on the inside of my wisdom teeth such that they can move inwards further. She also reduced the pressure on the clasp between my lower left premolars where the unwanted gaps started opening in the hopes that the teeth will move back. The lower labial bow was moved down as well to not intrude the front teeth further and hope that they'll come back up by themselves. As I'm wearing my plates more than the suggested 12-16 hours, the ortho said that we can have less time between appointments. We set the next one to be three weeks later.

Since that adjustment, the lower front teeth have started to come back up, but only a little. The unwanted gap between my premolars is unfortunately steadily increasing, with me getting food stuck there every single meal at this point. But the front teeth in general are mostly derotated and starting to align properly.

Fast forward to yesterday, where I had my next appointment. After a quick overview, the ortho said that my wisdom teeth are close to reaching their final place. She started by adjusting the lower holding clasps again to try and close the opening gap, but one of the triangle clasps broke. When trying to adjust the top plate, she also noticed that one of the springs is close to popping out of its socket. She kept the braces and will have the technician fix them. I used that chance to ask if it would be possible to increase the thickness of the bite plane on the lower plate and make the upper fill the whole palate. I got the feeling that she wasn't too keen on those suggestions, but I was able to convince her by saying that in the worst case if the modifications result in problems, she can just grind all of that away again. Taking plastic away is easier than adding some. For the thickness of the bite plane, she put a piece of wax roughly 1cm thick between my jaws and had me bite into it. She told me that the bite plane will be as thick as the space between my jaws when I bite into the wax. Of course that resulted in me biting into the wax as little as possible to get the plastic as thick as possible while still having my jaw in a comfortable position. Afterwards, another set of impressions was taken, this time with a tray for the upper jaw reaching further back into my palate.

This brings us back to last night, the first night since over 6 years without me having some smooth acrylic in my mouth. The braces are in the lab, and my old night guard obviously doesn't fit anymore. Instead, my mouth felt empty. As if there's something missing. Which there is. In fact, I slept rather bad and woke up several times. My body seems pretty used to the feeling of the plastic in my mouth during the night.

During the day there were moments where I felt like I forgot something. Which would be the case if my mouth was empty and my braces were laying next to me. My tongue doesn't have anything to play with anymore. I also noticed that speaking sometimes feels weird. During work meetings where I always remove the braces, there wasn't any problem. But when talking to my friends in voice chat, where I usually have my braces in, I noticed my mouth trying to talk around the braces. Which failed, as there are no braces.

But all of that is a small price to pay for finally getting the complete set of braces of my dreams with the whole palate covered with plastic and a bite plane as thick as a twin block!

I'll get the braces back on Thursday, and I'm already as excited as I was when I initially got them!

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and seeing more pictures. I want to get hawleys with brackets next, so your feedback will be welcomed!

@retainer101 I bought a hawley retainer from bracesshop and then got a modified twin block with herbst. The quality and fit is great! You won't be disappointed! You'll have to share some pics when you get your twin blocks!

I’ve had my retainers for nearly a year now and they have been a lot better than I thought, no issues and wear them every night with no problems. I have  seen a few people buy braces from this site called the braces shop And I was really intrigued by this. I’ve decided to try it out  myself which I’m slightly nervous about whether it’s risky or not. When I was younger I always wanted twin block braces as two of my friends had them so thought I’d give this braces shop a go. Not sure if that’s mad or not or how good quality they will be but I did the impressions and sent them off. Anxious and excited at the same time. Does anyone have any feedback from this site? Is it risky? Last thing I want to do is cause damage to my teeth/jaw but was so interested hearing other people have done this so i thought it was worth trying and seeing what twin blocks feel like. Has anyone had good experience with buying braces like this? If they come back and fit perfectly then it would be pretty crazy to even be able to do it

I wanted an orthodontic appliance that was bulky and uncomfortable in the mouth, which made it difficult to speak, which produced a lot of saliva, which made the lips stick out a little.
I had also asked to add the pearl to hold the tongue but the requests I made were so many that this one will have been lost.
Patience for the pearl.

With the other device I wanted to experience the sensation of having a fixed but removable device.
I made the palatal plate thicken and also added the bite on the plate.
This device will also be a bit uncomfortable to wear, with some difficulty speaking and a lot of saliva

looks like a massive appliance... awesome
Looking forward when you will tell us how it will feel when you worn it

Yes, on every orthodontic appliance there is a headgear both the highpull and the cervical one.
I will receive the two braces in a few days and I will be able to tell you more about what they look like when they are worn.

Those look awesome! How do they feel? Did you get headgear as well?

these are my two new braces, what do you think?

1) Modified Activator With Pelottes

I ordered this:
https://nullrefer.com/?https://www..../activator-with-tongue-crib-and-pelottes?c=60

I did make the following changes:
- The upper part of the palate completely closed and thick.
- The lower extension part closed on the front.
- Protective tubes put on the upper and lower arch wire.
- Pads and tubes colored orange.
- Device colored blue and orange.
- Add design of the soccer ball to the upper part of the palate.

2) Modified Retainer With Brakets

I ordered this:
https://nullrefer.com/?https://www....es/fake-braces/14/retainer-with-brackets?c=61

I had these changes made:-
- Green color
- The thick upper plate of the palate, covering the entire palate
- Bite plane added to the upper plate. I only took the upper device.

This are the photos:

https://nullrefer.com/?https://postimg.cc/gallery/RHfb8v0

Comment and ask any questions.

I‘m very happy to have elastics again, now the strong ones (called bummer) . I have to wear it only during the Night, from 3 and 4  (Upper jaw) to 3 and 4 lower jaw. Great feeling

Und vermisst du sie schon? Wie ist es denn mit den Schienen? Meine Brackets sollen noch in diesen Sommer raus, Wir sind im Finishing, aber eigentlich würde ich sie gerne noch länger tragen, weil ich mich sehr gut an sie gewöhnt habe und es schon fast ein Ritual ist, immer wieder mit der Zunge darüber zu fahren...
LG Flaneur

Hallo Joe, welche Bögen hast Du denn bekommen? Und musst du auch elastics tragen?
LG Flaneur

Haben wollen!

Wer würde sich so was einsetzen lassen? Hat irgendwas von einem Hernbstscharnier. https://nullrefer.com/?https://www....re-abnehmen-dank-zahnmagneten-id16639071.html

https://www.20min.ch/story/neue-diaet-zahnspange-sperrt-den-traegern-den-kiefer-zu-276189984344