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The Herbst appliance is primarily designed to correct overbites by moving the lower jaw forward, aligning it more appropriately with the upper jaw. It's not typically used for pushing the lower jaw back. In cases where the lower jaw is too far forward (underbite), different orthodontic treatments are usually recommended, such as braces combined with elastics or other functional appliances, or in some cases, orthognathic surgery. It's always best to consult with an orthodontist for a personalized treatment plan.

Just a question by the way: Does the Herbst help as well in the other direction, when the lower jaw should be pushed back?

The Herbst appliance serves as an effective solution for correcting a class II malocclusion, where the lower jaw is positioned too far back in relation to the upper jaw. To address this misalignment, the Herbst appliance is typically affixed to the last molar on the upper teeth and the first premolar on the lower teeth. Attachment methods may include bands, acrylic bites, or stainless steel crowns. Central to its function is a telescoping rod that permits the patient to open their mouth, while maintaining a fixed distance when closed. This fixed retraction pushes the lower jaw forward and repositions the upper arch, thereby rectifying the bite issue. The appliance's gradual adjustment mechanism also facilitates tooth movement, with the rod exerting pressure to push the upper teeth backward and the lower teeth forward. Orthodontists may incorporate bushings to extend the fixed length of the rod, aiding in the progressive correction of the malocclusion.

The Herbst appliance is an orthodontic appliance used by orthodontists to correct class 2 retrognathic mandible in a growing patient, meaning that the lower jaw is too far back. This is also called bitejumping. Herbst appliance parts include stainless steel surgical frameworks that are secured onto the teeth by bands (steal rings that go around teeth) or acrylic bites. These are connected by sets of telescoping mechanisms that apply gentle upward and backward force on the upper jaw, and forward force on the lower jaw.

Pretty sure its just the name of the company

May I ask what Erbest means? Thank you very much.

Hallo Louis03M,
das sin ja tolle Klammern. kann mir vorstellen, dass es schwierig ist diese zu tragen; aber auch sehr interessant. Danke fürs zeigen.
Grüße der Quälgeist

This is my new Herbst braces:

I recently received a new orthodontic Herbst device, and I'm thrilled to share my experiences with it. This unique appliance boasts several fascinating features:

1. Headgear tubes are present on both the top and bottom plates, adding a distinctive element to the design.
2. The upper plate completely covers the palate, offering extensive coverage that I find quite remarkable.
3. A notably thick top arch plate enhances the device's robustness.
4. The upper arch plate is designed without an expander, making it more streamlined.
5. A bite plane is included in the upper arch plate for added functionality.
6. The presence of a tongue crib in the upper bow plate is an innovative touch, although it does make speaking a bit challenging.
7. Telescopic arms connect the upper plate to the lower one, a feature I find particularly interesting as it links the two sections effectively.
8. The color scheme is striking, with the upper arch plate in green and the lower arch in light blue.
9. A delightful Pikachu Pokémon design on the top arch plate adds a playful, tender touch that I adore.
10. The lower arch plate is designed without an expander, maintaining simplicity in its structure.
11. Classic metal arches encircle the teeth on both the top and bottom plates, giving it a traditional orthodontic feel.
12. A soccer ball design on the lower plate is a fun and appealing addition.
13. The incorporation of high-pull and cervical headgears for the upper and lower plates, respectively, is a fascinating choice. These external components not only increase the appliance's functionality but also add to the feeling of being noticeable, which I find intriguing.

Wearing this appliance, with its lateral pistons, offers a complex yet satisfying experience. The thick plate provides a pleasant sensation on the palate. The tongue crib, while making speech difficult, adds an interesting dimension to the appliance. I've also added elastics to enhance the piston's resistance and traction.

The external headgears, especially the high-pull and cervical ones, contribute to a feeling of enclosure and noticeable presence in public, which I find quite exciting. The challenge of wearing such a bulky device as long as possible is intriguing to me, as it induces increased saliva production and adds to the overall experience.

Overall, I'm extremely pleased with my choice and would love to hear your thoughts on this orthodontic device. What do you think about my selection, the design, or anything else about it? I'm eager to read your opinions!

This are the photo of my new device.
https://shorturl.at/efMO6

Could the braces shop make a brace with high labial bow and apron spring? ( a device used for protruding upper incisors)

Naja ich fahre jz schon an einen Ort wo ich mir sicher bin das mich niemand kennt. Aber da trage ich die Spange(Profilbild) inkl. Kombi HG dauerhaft

Ouhhh, das würde ich mich wohl nicht trauen. Spitze, wenn das so geht.
Grüße Quälgeist

Heute meine Fake Spange  :-* finde sie mega... trägt sich super und sprechen bzw. verstehen fast nicht möglich... Endlich kann ich sie mit HG in der Öffentlichkeit tragen, bei quasi fast allem was so geht

Hallo, ich trage sie im Alltag; Einkaufen, zu Hause, Rad fahren. So oft wie es halt möglich ist.
Grüße

Hallo bracessd,
das teil sieht ja recht "schwierig" aus. Wie kommst Du damit zurecht. Du trägst das Teil ja schon länger. Kannst Du dich damit bei fremden verständigen?
Gruß Quälgeist

Hallo Brace-Face,
dieser "Powerscope II" sieht ja ziemlich "hart" aus. Wie lange muss man so etwas tragen und wie hält man das sauber? Das Foto kann ich leider nicht sehen. Ich weiß nicht warum?
Grüße der Quälgeist

Still looking for a strap  ;D

Hi, I have one

Since my first post in this thread, the idea getting real braces again, is becoming stronger and stronger.
I already hat a first consultation with an orthodontist during corona. Due to the masks I thought, this could help me hiding them in the beginning.
But the orthodontist said that I don`t need them
Thanks to my fake braces, I started to turn the expander a bit, I have got some annoying gaps between some of my teeth.
So I will give it another try in the next weeks and hopefully will get my jaws metalized.
Hopefully full set of brackets on top and bottom, with some bands on the molars.
Headgear, Herbst and/or an expander would be heaven one earth for me…

I also got braces as an adult. I have chosen clear ceramic braces. Only the lower teeth in the back were metal braces.

If I have to chose again, I would pick metal braces on all teeth, because they are smaller and easier to take off. My orthodontist told me exactly that in the consultation.

After all the ceramic braces are not as invisible as you think. People can mix up with dirty teeth.

Hi,

wie lange hat es gedauert, als die fertigen Abdrücke beim Labor angekommen sind bis die fertige Zahnspange bei dir zuhause angekommen ist?

VG