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I had tongue tamers for my tongue thrust on 2 top and 2 bottom teeth for a few months. They were irritating the first week when I spoke. They gave me a mild lisp that was a bit frustrating, but in the end did not help my tongue thrust as my tongue just pushed between them. I have a picture but don’t know how to post it.tonguetamers.png
 
This is my problem too. I’m transitioning orthodontists because of it. My current ortho wants to push my bite back but it causes my TMJ to flare. I consulted with a TMJ specialist who identified my 2nd forward bite. She reached out to my current ortho who wasn’t keen on moving my bite forward. This week, I have my last appointment with my current ortho and my first actual appointment with my new ortho. My new ortho will be banding the 6 teeth that don’t have braces and is working with the take specialist to determine if I will need a repositioning appliance before beginning any further movement. I ended up adding a year and a half to my treatment time.
 

Ericspain

Bronce Member
In an exact month, on June 13 they will put the traditional metal braces on me. At no time did the orthodontist tell me that they can get colored and I want it that way. Do you think I should wait until the day they put it on and tell me what color I want them or won't they? Besides, what color do you recommend in a boy? I thought about putting on braces of each color, what do you think?
 
Ich hab gar nicht nachgefragt. Bei Behandlungsbeginn hieß es, 3 Jahre. Somit wäre es in 7 Monaten vorbei. Andererseits wurde mit den Weisheitszähnen noch nicht begonnen. Sonst ist nicht viel arg verdreht, das sollte sich also ausgehen. Eigentlich dachte ich schon vor 2 Terminen, dass die 8er bald eingespannt werden...
 
Hallo wieder einmal!

Heute war wieder ein Kontrolltermin beim KFO, diesmal war wieder die Ärztin da. Was gemacht wurde?
Die obere Kette wurde entfernt und der Bogen herausgenommen. Mit einer Schnur/Zahnseide hat die Ärztin vermutlich kontrolliert, wie die Geometrie im OK aussieht.
Da anscheinend der 2er rechts leicht verdreht ist, was mir nicht aufgefallen wäre, wurde mit einer Zange der Draht gebogen. Danach kam dieser wieder hinein, die Slots wurden geschlossen und erneut eine Kette von 7 auf 7 eingezogen. Zusätzlich bekam ich eine Kette von 1 auf 1, um die entstandene kleine Lücke zwischen den Frontzähnen zu schließen.
Im UK rechts wurde die Kette entfernt und durch eine Verblockung von 2 auf 4 gemacht.
Die Sitzung dauerte wie jedes Mal ca. 25 Minuten.
Der nächste Termin wird in 7 Wochen stattfinden, ich halte Euch auf dem Laufenden.
Joe
 
You can ask them to install the expansion screw from a double feed plate. Than you will have the two spikes as an obstacle for your tongue….
 
My first hawley retainer was made of clear acrylic and did stain yellow/brown as you say. I ha ve a fixed retainer but was supposed also to wear the hawley 12/7 for the first 6 months. I could have done the 12 hours between dinner and breakfast but found I wasn't wearing the hawley during the evening and made up time the following morning and ended up drinking coffee with my hawley in. My subsequent two hawleys have both been transparent pink. I usually only ear them at night so risk of staining is minimal. But I did wear the second hawley 24/7 for 6 months after some relapse and was meticulous in taking it out when eating or drinking anything.

Your hawley has a huge plate and a very visible labial bow. I presume that is to your liking? Good luck with it!
 
Before last appointment I used polymorph (plastic which is moldable when warm) to create a bite registration ish to test and see how my bite fits currently. To my untrained eyes it looks pretty good, all teeth have good contact. I showed it to my ortho during last appointment, who was amused to say the least. She said my bite looks very good. She wants to take impressions for an analysis model to confirm that we're done with my bite. If that's the case, she recommended that I schedule a visit to my dentist for a lower bruxism night guard. I reminded her that the gap behind one canine is opening back up slightly, and that I'd like for my upper and lower incisors to touch, i.e., if she can pull them back a bit. With these slight modifications still open, I asked if it makes sense to have the night guard made now as it's adjusted to the bite and contact positions of the upper teeth.
She concurred that she'll first make the upper wraparound style retainer. By applying pressure to the labial bow she'll push my incisors back and thus also the canine.

I had one upper and lower impression made for the analysis model and another upper one for the wraparound retainer. They bought new impression trays just for me as the other ones never really worked that well for me. But those trays didn't have a palatal section. The first upper impression had a large air bubble and was thus unusable for my retainer that should fill the full palate. The solution for the second and third attempts was to first fill my palate manually with the impression material and then use the spoon. Which meant that my mouth was overfull with the impression material and it oozed everywhere.
The next appointment was scheduled for in two weeks time (which is tomorrow).

During that appointment the ortho asked me if I'm still apprehensive regarding the fixed retainer. I have less problems with it than I expected, but I still don't like food getting stuck there. She said that her treatment plan always intended the fixed retainer to be used. But if I really want to get rid of it once I have the lower bruxism guard, she'll remove it against her recommendation.

And wouldn't you know, when flossing last Thursday, the retainer came loose from my right canine. I called and went in that same day. The excess glue was removed, everything cleaned, etched and the retainer glued back to the tooth. The glue blob is way larger than before, giving it an even more artificial feeling.
The wraparound plate was already finished, so the ortho test-fit it. If it were to need a larger adjustment with new impressions, those could be done until the scheduled appointment 5 days later.
To fit the plate, first the elastic hook on my upper left first molar needed to be removed. I find it interesting how strong the hook is held on the tooth, but how little force is required to pop it loose. As that tooth is extremely sensitive, the ortho was very careful when grinding away the glue and applied lots of fluoride varnish afterwards.
The plate fits well. Only few small adjustments were needed like bending the wire in one place and grinding away some acrylic. She checked that I don't bite into the acrylic and only my teeth touch, for which she needed to grind away a bit more in the front. I was told to try wearing it for 10-12 hours a day and see if I notice any adverse changes. The ortho will start activating the string and labial bow during the next visit tomorrow.

I didn't get to choose a color and expected blue to be used just like for all my other appliances to far. Unfortunately, instead, it's transparent, which from my experience with the previous bruxism guard will quickly turn yellow-brownish (which is why I went for blue).
The wire is very thick, thicker than any of my previous plates.
The acrylic starts at the tooth and covers all of my hard palate, exactly as I wanted. It goes back very far to behind my wisdom teeth. It's rather thin, especially towards the back.
I (unfortunately) don't have any kind of lisp when wearing it. I was exited for some kind of lisp. But there's nothing. Even when it was first inserted, I didn't have any trouble speaking. If you didn't see me wearing it, you wouldn't be able to tell.

It fits rather nicely. It was applying lots of pressure on the inside of my upper right first molar. I took the liberty to use a small file (intended for 3D print cleanup) to file away bit by bit day by day from the plate at that tooth until now it doesn't apply that much pressure anymore.
I also bent the labial acrylic down and to the left a bit because it wasn't touching my incisors but pressing significantly on my gums. The right U-loop was also pressing into my gums, so I bent it away a bit.
The back edge of the acrylic was very sharp and dug into my palate. I used some sandpaper to round it, but didn't get far as it's so thin. I think about asking if it could be made thicker to better round it. The sanding helped a bit, but could be better.
These were only very slight modifications and the plate does fit way better now. I don't know if I should tell the ortho tomorrow or if she will scold me for it.

To conclude, here are some images of the wraparound retainer:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/1102593341696254013/1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/1102593342170214410/2.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/1102593343080382534/3.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863502137362743399/1102593343654998157/4.jpg
 
Oh for anyone who didn’t see my other post. I felt much better better in the morning and went and got my upper braces on! Check the other posts for more :))
 
somerandomfella said:
If you don't feel significantly better tomorrow, then I would reschedule. It's not fair to the techs who work in such close proximity to you. And you want to enjoy the experience to the fullest!

I get that yeah--I wont go if I'm really feeling bad or think I'm contagious. I will test again tonight to make sure its not Covid. I have gotten stress colds like this before that come and go fast, so I'm hoping it's just that (had an all nighter that took a toll on me).

If I feel a lot better tomorrow and its mild, I'd wanna try to go though because it could be 3-4 weeks before the next appointment which would delay surgery and stuff (on top of being a major bummer).  I'm not sneezing/coughing at all really, and I do wear an n95 in public plus all staff wears n95s and double masks and has strict hygiene standards..so if I'm feeling mostly better and confirmed its not covid, it shouldn't be a huge safety risk for them I feel.

I'll just have to see tomorrow
 
somerandomfella said:
If you don't feel significantly better tomorrow, then I would reschedule. It's not fair to the techs who work in such close proximity to you. And you want to enjoy the experience to the fullest!

^THIS^​
 

ineedbraces25

Gold Member
So update for anyone who is following. I’m scheduled to get braces on at 10am tomorrow. Today could be my last day without braces and I’m trying not to freak out.

But the thing is, I’ve been sick since Wednesday. Feel pretty fatigued and shitty (seems like a cold thing) so that’s been blocking some of my feels, and I don’t know how I’ll feel by tomorrow. If I don’t go tomorrow, it could be another 2-3 weeks. I’d be so bummed, my treatment is delayed, therefore surgery delayed, and I could lose momentum and doubt creeps in.

But the experience might not be that fun if I’m still sick. Depending how bad it is. I won’t feel my best or look my best, might be too tired to do anything after and enjoy it. It really isn’t ideal.

Fuck I don’t know what to do. Push through and get braces even if I’m still sick feeling tomorrow? Or cancel and then have to wait 2-3 weeks, potentially even more. It isn’t ideal of a situation :( what would y’all say?

Also the nerves of it actually happening are making me crazy, I can’t nap even though I’m tired and heart is racing. Really gotta calm down ugh.

Any thoughts appreciated !!
 
interesting. I guess I'll see how many notice mine when I get them. I have little tooth show when I talk (bottom is kinda more visible than upper row) but if I make expressions or anything they'll definitely show.

I kinda dread anyone pointing them out though lol. I think since its a kink for me and was this huge embarrassing thing all my life, having someone casually go 'you got braces?" and draw attention to them is kinda embarassing. If I meet new people with braces, it won't be a big deal at all. But I dont like the idea of some that I know just noticing I got them....

Who knows how I'll feel though. I might be embarassed and wanna hide them at first, or I might just gain confidence and act like they're no big deal. We'll see. Either way, I am getting them haha. No ones opinions and even my own insecurity won't stop me from doing this for my future self!
 
Well, the nerves are returning again now that I have only two days left before braces (again). It's actually crazy reliving the anticipation from last week again, and counting down haha.

It's going to be sooooo intense for me getting to the last 24 hours and then right before, and during, and after...fuck. I need to get all my real life work/obligations done before then because I will NOT be able to focus around that time lol.

It's just so crazy....I've had this kink for over a decade and now it's about to happen in real life. I guess we are a bit fortunate our kink can happen in real life like this (whether youre into braces yourself or on others). But it was pure fantasy for so long...so I'm going crazy with nerves/excitement at the thought that its REALLY happening. That I'm getting real metal braces installed in two daysish....that three days from now Ill have them on and be posting about them on here. Fuck.

It's insane. Everything's gonna change. I can't wait.
 
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