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Just thought I’d update on progress as this brace is working wonders. A week in and I have nails for the first time in 30+ years. It’s still early days but having tried everything else I really didn’t think a removable brace would be the thing that worked!! I know this is a braces forum and not a nail biting forum but if anyone else has the habit and wants to stop I really would recommend this. You can wear the brace when you know you normally bite your nails so you can manage most of the time to not have to wear it in awkward situations. I’ve been wearing it out a few times but not with friends or family and I don’t wear it at night or in meetings. It’s really not as much trouble as I thought it would be. Id love to hear if anyone else has this habit and would consider the same treatment. I would recommend it as a last resort for sure. It’s only been a week or so, so don’t want to get ahead of myself but it’s really shocking how much it’s worked.
 
A lot happened since the last update. In fact, I had two adjustments and will have the next one tomorrow.

In the last update before the first of those adjustments, I wrote that my teeth had shifted quite a lot in the seven weeks since the adjustment before. When the ortho asked me how it went since the last adjustment, I answered that a lot of stuff moved in ways they probably shouldn't. She looked at my teeth and acknowledged the very same things I noticed.
My 11 (I'm going to use FDI from now on if that's fine with you) moving back and blocking my bite was promptly moved forwards. Regarding my rotated 21 and 22, the ortho said that it's mainly due to intrusion. She explained that some intrusion is to be expected when using removable braces, but she has never seen a patient where teeth intrude as quickly and strongly as mine do. She also mentioned that my teeth seem to move very fast in general. She relieved the pressure on 21 in the hope that the tooth will extrude back out.
After mentioning that my 28 had moved inwards quite a bit as the acrylic counterpart was missing, she reduced the pressure of that spring.

In the bottom she increased the pressure of the labial bow a bit to close the minimal gaps I was still noticing. I mentioned that those incisors still feel sensitive even after 7 weeks, probably due to the bottom plate being pushed forward when I'm clenching subconsciously. She spent quite a lot of time removing any pressure I felt from all the springs behind those teeth, adjusting them little by little for each individual tooth. She also pushed out the holding clasp between my 44 and 45, ground away a little from the acrylic on the inside and increased the tension of the triangular clasp behind 45 such that the 44 can move back and the 45 is pushed slightly to the front, reducing that gap. That definitely helped as that gap is gone again.
I also asked when my 38 will be derotated which I initially requested before getting the braces. She wants to have my bottom from teeth finished before starting on that tooth, as there are currently already enough things to work on. It'll require another modification to the bottom plate. The acrylic on the inside will need to go back even further to fully cover that tooth. A spring will also need to be added similar to the ones I had for my top wisdom teeth. From that description I guess the original idea during the first consultations of using a button won't be happening...

Due to my teeth moving quite fast, the ortho wants to see me more often with less time between appointments. I agreed on another appointment three weeks later.

As my teeth and bite were shifting all over the place again, already the evening after the adjustment I bit of a bit from the corner of my 12 as I hit that tooth once 11 was moved out of the way. Luckily it's only a small piece without any further problems. Apart from that, not much happened. The bottom incisors improved rotation- and alignment-wise. The top got slightly better but I still can't bite properly. I can't bite off things like pizza and can't chew properly due to a posterior open bite resulting from everything being in flux.

Three weeks later, two weeks ago, I had the next adjustment. All gaps between the bottom incisors had closed. My 42 was still out of line a bit. The ortho said that she'd like to strip the space between the 42 and 43 a bit more to move 42 back a bit more. I think I'll never get used to the feeling of IPR. It just feels so ... weird. I can't describe it. On one side it's exactly as expected, sandpaper between teeth, on the other side it makes me feel like when I hear fingernails on a chalkboard. Anyway, she added more pressure to that tooth from the labial bow, which now makes a curve inwards in front of that tooth. She said that from now on she wants to only apply very slight pressure as my teeth again moved quite a lot in the three weeks. When I asked her in how far that was unusual, she said that usually with adults movements aren't that fast and teeth don't react that strongly. I told her I wear the braces about 18-20 hours each day, which she meant could explain part of it. Anyway, she'll try to move ahead with using only slight pressure and adjustments every 2 weeks now.

On the top plate, the spring for the 28 dug into my gum since the last appointment. The ortho said that my 18 and 28 are in their final position and have been retained there for some time already. The springs shouldn't be needed anymore and are causing more harm than good. Thusly, she removed them. She clipped them off and smoothed the places where they met the acrylic. She also adjusted the spring behind my 12 to move it forward and out of harms way. And then the unexpected happened: She turned the expansion screw of the upper plate. Only half of a turn, so 1/8 of a full rotation, but she turned it! She said that she needs a bit more space in the front.

As I've always been highly intrigued by expanders, I was on cloud nine. It was just such a slight expansion, but I was able to fully enjoy the feeling of the sideways pressure. Though unfortunately it was very slight and only lasted for about a day. Still an amazing experience I had only dreamed of before.

In the weeks since, my top teeth didn't change much, but the top plate also wasn't modified much. The alignment of the bottom incisors improves ever so slightly bit by bit. However, they are at completely different heights now, probably due to different pressure and rates of intrusion.
Last week I had a painful sore spot in my lower gums, which the lower brace pressed against. I wasn't able to wear the plate for three days, letting the spot heal and disappear on its own. Interestingly, the differing heights of my lower incisors started to equalize a little during that time, as if some of the teeth were extruding again. Also the posterior open bite started to close a little. However, all of that was undone within a day of starting to wear the lower plate again.

I'm at a point where first doubts start to set in. Some things improve a bit here and there, while other parts go haywire. I still absolutely enjoy the whole experience with lots of elated moments. However, I'm thinking about if I'll ever be able to bite as well again as I did before starting with all of this. I guess I'm currently just frustrated that stuff is moving around in ways it shouldn't. But then again I've read a lot that it always gets worse before it gets better.


In my region, some places start to open up a bit more with mask mandates being partially lifted. This means that in some places I'm now wearing the braces around without a mask to hide them behind. I have to say that it's a very different feeling. Beforehand, noone could see the braces and given my speech having become quite good (with only a bit of the "braces-accent" left), I think hardly anyone would even notice that I have braces. But now everyone can see them when I'm talking or laughing. There are some times where I completely forget about them and act just normal, and then there are times where I become extremely self-aware about them and try to hide them. The switch between those happens instantly, sometimes while I'm talking. I guess I'm not used to that "exposed" feeling yet. On the other side, not wearing a mask in public places doesn't prevent me from wearing the braces anymore as was the case when I initially got the braces. Still, I don't wear them during work meetings or in the office. Luckily, it's still mostly home office for the foreseeable future.

retained said:
It will be interesting to know how it is to speak without the plates when you eventually finish with them.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I still speak quite a lot without the braces in as I don't wear them during work meetings or when eating. It takes a few seconds to adapt to not having them in when I take them out where my mouth still tries to swallow and speak as if I had them in and fails miserably. But after those few seconds everything's back to normal.

retained said:
(One small thing, and please excuse me for saying....but it is 'ground' not 'grinded')
(On the contrary, thanks a lot. I thought "ground" might be correct, but it just sounded wrong to me for some reason.)
 
I had to go back in today because it wasn’t fitting properly. They shaved a bit off but it’s still not right. I didn’t have the courage to ask them to do the moulds again but with the bottom set done too so they could better fit it to the bottom teeth. Will just see how I get on but I’m terms of working to stop me biting my nails it is already working which is good. If I can keep it up and it stops the habit fully I will be really happy. Just hard as I have to wear it during the day. I just wear my normal retainer at night because I don’t bite my nails at night. Will update in a few months if it’s worked just in case anyone else has this habit and has tried everything else that hasn’t worked. So far so good
 
This is the new appliance. It annoyingly doesn’t fit properly as the brace only touches one bottom tooth at the back so it will affect my bite if i don’t fix it. Have another appointment tomorrow to try and fix it or else will need to take new impression, this time too and bottom, to make sure they make it so it fits properly against my bottom teeth
 
Dentist called to say my appliance is here so I have booked my appointment for tomorrow! Slightly anxious about it now but also hopeful that this works. If it does it will be the best decision ever. If it doesn’t it will be a big waste of money. Fingers crossed
 
Hello again!

Hier meine Neuigkeiten: Gestern war wieder Kontrolltermin nach 9 Wochen. Beim letzten Reparaturtermin wurde das 1er Bracket neu geklebt, leider passte es nicht genau, der 1er stand einen halben mm zu weit herunter. Das wurde gestern korrigiert. Während des Entfernens des Bogens ist auch am gegenüberliegenden 2er das Bracket abgegangen, also musste auch das neu gemacht werden. Danach wieder den Bogen rein (es ist noch kein Stahlbogen, anders als ich das einmal gedacht hatte) und was passiert? Das 1er ist wieder herunter gekommen. Also die ganze Prozedur nochmals. In der Zwischenzeit hab ich unten den ersten Stahlbogen bekommen. Diesmal wurde auch wieder eine Drahtligatur am unteren 4er befestigt.
Ein paar Fragen hab ich auch noch gestellt. Der untere 1er, der mir etwas verdreht vorkommt, ist in Ordnung.
Der Weisheitszahn, der nicht ganz durchgekommen ist und schief drinnen liegt wird derzeit nicht behandelt. Er soll dann automatisch rauskommen, wenn die oberen 4er rauskommen. Das verzögert sich auch noch um ein paar Wochen, weil der obere 1er leider falsch ist.
Der weitere Zeitplan ist also: 4 Wochen bis zum nächsten Termin, bis dahin ist der 1er richtig, dann Drahtbogen oben und ein paar Wochen darauf kommen die 4er raus.  Das wird Mitte Dezember sein.
Der Termin hat diesmal ca. 1 Stunde gedauert. Als ich dann daheim war, passierte dann gleich ein Malheur. Am 6er rechts unten hat sich ein Bracket gelöst. Also aller guten Dinge sind 3.
Die Reparatur ist heute Nachmittag erfolgt, diesmal war es etwas schmerzhaft, weil der stärkere Bogen unten schon ziemlich viel bewegt und gelockert hat. Also der Tag nach dem Bogenwechsel ist wirklich nicht angenehm für eine Reparatur. Aber es ist ja überstanden.

Sobald es etwas Neues gibt, erfahrt ihr es natürlich hier.

Joe
 
Had my appointment today. Went well. The dentist was interested to see if it would actually work as a habit breaker and I promised them a bottle of champagne if it did work! She also said that as it has occlusal coverage it can affect the bite as it is more of a brace than a retainer but I said I don’t have the habit when I sleep so I’ll wear my retainer at night and the brace sporadically during the day during times I normally bite my nails like watching tv or driving. She said I need to go back every 3-4 weeks to make sure it’s not detrimentally affecting my bite which I agreed to but she was intrigued to see if this works. Will go back to get the appliance in a few weeks when they call me in. Not sure if any of you bite your nails but if this works I shall keep you posted. If it does it will be the best investment I have made, if it doesn’t it’s not the most expensive thing to try.
 
Hello everyone. As I’m getting pretty serious on fixing my smile at adult age, I decided to start a blog. I have been reading a lot of forums and blogs and I think it can be very interesting to share my story too. Feel free to visit and read about my story on http://www.adultwithbraces.com It is a work in progress so any suggestions or remarks are welcome!
 
I have an appointment with my dentist next week. The twin blocks were just a bit of fun but actually I realised I couldn’t bite my nails when I had them in. Obviously can’t really wear them for any length of time so I asked my dentist if I could modify my retainer to have occlusal coverage (think that’s what it’s called). She said she couldn’t do that on the retainer because if it might break if I had a nail habit. She said she can make me a new retainer with occlusal coverage which should work and can be worn all the time to see if it curbs my habit. It’s a horrible habit so if this works it will be well worth it. I tried all the gels and other tips and tricks but nothing has ever worked so fingers crossed this does. Have to have impressions taken again and then wait 3 or 4 weeks and then get the appliance.
 
I had these changes made for retainer with brackets:
- Green color
- The thick upper plate of the palate, covering the entire palate
- Bite plane added to the upper plate. I only took the upper device.
- Headgear tube and headgear cervical + highpull

I advise you to make the changes I made, you will not regret it.

I recommend that you also have the lower brace built and add the biteplane to it.

In the upper plate I suggest you put the toungue crib.

For the color, in my opinion, have the plaques made multicolored and put these colors on each plaque: blue, orange, purple, green.

You will see that you will be comfortable with this device.

You will have a little difficulty speaking because the upper plate will be thick, there will be the biteplane and there will be the grille to stop the tongue.

Once worn, you will feel like you have a fixed brace in your mouth.

I recommend that you try to wear it 16 hours a day.

Leave the house with the appliance do not be afraid, having the brackets they will think that you have a fixed appliance.

Sometimes try wearing the headgear as well and use it outside the house for a few hours.

At the moment I haven't tried it with rubber bands yet.

I have so many sachets at home with rubber bands I should try to use them.

I found the other orthodontic appliances you saw in the photos using the vinted website where clothes and more are sold.

I asked through an announcement on the vinted forum and many people contacted me privately.

I paid between 5 euros and 10 euros for the single people who sold me their disused orthodontic appliances.
 
Thanks. Am finding the detailed updates very interesting. That really is a mouthful of thick plastic.
Its always surprising how we can learn to deal with something so intrusive.
It will be interesting to know how it is to speak without the plates when you eventually finish with them.

(One small thing, and please excuse me for saying....but it is 'ground' not 'grinded')
 
Hallo wieder einmal.

Damit mir mich langweilig wird, ist mal wieder ein Bracket abgegangen. Diesmal gleich am 1er oben links. Mein Glück hierbei war, dass dieses letztes Mal verklebt wurde, dass es nicht verrutscht ist. Passiert ist es ja eigentlich schon letzte Woche, aber der Doc war auf Urlaub. So gesehen war es Glück im Unglück.

Bis bald einmal und keep smiling with your braces
 
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