Troubles with retainer and facemask

bdave

Silver Member
Hi all, I’m having troubles with my top retainer (expander) and my reverse-pull facemask.

I just need help in fitting it with my face: if I set the elastic hooks on the facemask too high from the retainer, the facemask slowly goes down. If I set them too low, it pulls out my retainer...

What can I do? Are the elastics too strong?
I can post pictures if needed
 
I don't think headgear or facemasks will work very well with removable braces as they are not fixed securely enough to the teeth. Headgear etc in real life is generally attached to fixed braces.
 
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