Hello, 
I'm
After purchasing braces from the braces shop, what are people's experience? How easy is it?  What have people ordered? How can I order but I cannot have them delivered to my home - I'm
Based in Manchester uk any help would be great thanks
Andy

I would love fixed braces on a retainer with springs and headgear tubes

Does anyone know if, once you mail your impressions back, the Braces Shop automatically keeps the plaster mold of your teeth so that you do not have to make a new one if you want to order something else later, or is this something you need to specify?

thanks all for your help. Ive sent an email to the braces shop as i would like fixed brackets with the telescopic appliance on a retainer with headgear tubes - just waiting for an email back and then possibly place an order

I ordered the Modified Twin Block with Telescopic appliance, along with the cervical headgear - I'm going to try and get the high pull headgear too to wear both straps but only when I'm out of town!! I'm hoping I won't be able to speak properly with them in and wear them in public. I've been told it's going to be sent out this week so will have them next week!! I can not wait! I'll post pictures of anyone's interested?

Hi Cassandra!

Your "dream" sounds interesting. For sure a very mouthfilling and lispmaking construction, as it should be ;-)
But I think, that the pelottes will keep you from touching and feeling the braces with your lips... Think about if you really want that.
The Modified Twin block with Telescopic appliance is a very nice apparatus - maybe you can also order tongue cribs with it - and don´t forget the headgear.

That's something to think about, Surfreak. Another thing that has occurred to me is whether or not I would actually be able to tolerate wearing something so obstructive. I had real braces as a kid, and I got used to those fine, but my retainer always kind of drove me crazy. Something about how the plastic wasn't really attached, so it would move around slightly. Add to that a tongue crib, a twin block to keep my teeth from closing, and all the rest - I mean, what if I could only keep it in for an hour or so? What if it hurt my jaw or my tongue or both? What if that made it incredibly impractical to wear? Then I'd have this glorious appliance in my possession but I'd be wishing I'd gotten just regular fake brackets that I could actually wear all day!

hey cassandra thanks for sharing ... i'm finding myself with the exact same hesitation ... what can i get that is just almost too much ... without going overboard and hating it ... i still do want to enjoy it of course

i guess whatever it is might seem overwhelming when we first get it ... part of the experience is getting used to it right?

i wish i could try them all but it's a bit expensive ... makes it stressful trying to choose where to start

anyway good luck ... looking forward to what you decide and hearing how it goes

So...... my braces have finally arrived!!

I picked them up yesterday lunch time and went straight back to the car to try them on - they are a perfect fit!

The modified twin blocks with telescopic appliance is not only a mouthful to say but a mouthful of plastic and metal. I drove to a shop and wore them to ask the lady behind the counter for something - I could see her obviously looking, but she didn't say anything.

Once I got home after work, I tried it all with the headgear to finish the look.

I'm travelling out of town with work next week so am hoping to pluck up the courage to wear the headgear in public.

To anyone who isn't sure about ordering from bracesshop - stop hesitating and just do it. The quality and workmanship is excellent - the down side is it takes a long time from ordering to arriving - mainly down to international postage.

I'm going to take some photos of the brace in if anyone is interested?

Yes, pictures would be awesome!
Of the plaun brace as well when it is worn!
What especially do you like on braces?

I wore the headgear in public!!! I went to a shopping centre out of town - went in a few shops and bought a few things. Got a lot of stares but I really wanted someone to talk about it to me which was disappointing! A very surreal experience!!

@mr-metal
That's awesome. Hope to hear more about your adventures and see more photos. I'm also contemplating having fakes made.

My
Kit has arrived and the impressions have been done.  I will post them back today and then wait .  I've ordered brackets on a retainer with headgear tubes

Oh nein :-(
Das ist echt sehr sehr schade!

Der Zeithorizont scheint im Moment tatsächlich ein Bisschen schwierig zu sein - wohl viel zu tun derzeit. Was uns ja nur recht sein sollte, denn wenn der Laden brummt, geht er nicht pleite. In meiner Erfahrung gerade jetzt aktuell (November 2016) ist die Qualität nach wie vor erstklassig und der Service zuvorkommend und freundlich. Insofern würde ich mal für Verständnis werben wollen, wenn unser bekannt guter ShopTechniker aktuell mal für sein Handwerk etwas mehr Zeit braucht. Ich bin sicher, man tut was man kann.

--SC

Hallo zusammen,

ich habe immer gute Erfahrungen gemacht mit dem Shop, jedoch bedenkt mal das wir bald Weihnachten haben und auch da kommt es vor das es zu Verzögerungen kommt, denn Turner ist sicher nicht der einzigste der jetzt auf neue "Spielzeuge" wartet. Habt etwas Geduld dann ist das um so schöner wenn etwas neues unter dem Baum liegt

euch allen eine schöne nuschelnde

Vorweinachtszeit

Der eine oder andere, der einen Einkauf vor sich herschiebt, wird wohl zu Weihnachten sich selbst ein heiß ersehntes Spielzeug gönnen. Das dürfte aber bei einem Labor, das für KFO-Praxen arbeitet und nebenher ein paar Spielzeuge produziert, nicht wirklich ins Gewicht fallen. Ob Weihnachten oder das nahende Jahresende Einfluss auf das Auftragsvolumen seitens der KFO-Praxen hat, vermag ich nicht zu beurteilen.

Mal ganz ohne Wertung - was könnte ein Rolle spielen?

- Patienten sollen sich außerhalb der Schule an die Spange gewöhnen können - dafür ist es noch zu früh, und das müsste dann ja auch vor Herbst-, Oster- und Sommerferien zutreffen...
- Stichtag Jahresende - Krankenkassenbudgets warden zum Jahresende eher knapp, denke ich, für die prinzipielle Zahlungsbereitschaft ist in der Regel wohl der Geburtstag Stichtag...
- Viele Arbeitnehmer bekommen zu Weihnachten Sonderzahlungen, Selbstzahler könnten diese nutzen, um die Behandung zu beginnen...
- Sofern das Labor Arbeitnehmer beschäftigt, könnte der Abbau von Resturlaub zu Kapazitätsengpässen führen, sofern übers Jahr nicht ausreichend darauf geachtet wird...

Da das Abdruckset ja aber verschickt worden sein soll, könnte es auch noch sein, dass es einfach auf dem Postweg vorloren ging. Wie die Abbuchung da reinpasst, weiß ich auch nicht, ergibt sich evtl. aus den Zahlungsbedingungen...

Grüße

Dominik

hast du polo den admin hier angeschrieben? Ich glaube er ist der Inhaber des Shops..

"Bislang ist nichts bei mir angekommen.
Leider kommt auch auf E-Mails keine Reaktion.

Somit werde ich das Geld wohl einfach zurückbuchen lassen und die Sache vergessen.
Schade."

Hallo Turner,

ist aus den Spangen nix geworden?
berichte uns doch mal was nun passiert ist.

liene Grüße

Labialbogen

Mittlerweile habe ich Nachricht vom Techniker bekommen, die Kommunikation zwischen dem Techniker und dem Shopbetreiber scheint nicht so gut zu sein.
Habe das Abdruckset erhalten, postwendend die Abdrücke gemacht, alles zurück geschickt und hoffe dass ich gerade noch rechtzeitig alles bekomme.

Hello,

I am surprised to see the posts above, i ordered my modified twin block and few days later i received the impression kit, which i shipped back the day later.
The email contact was quite good and 2 weeks later i received my brace.
Wearing it write now, (as almost every night)

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im very satisfied

Wow, glad to hear that. It looks great. May I ask where are you from that it was so quick?

Finland

Did you had to fill in the VAT Registration number?

Hello,

I am surprised to see the posts above, i ordered my modified twin block and few days later i received the impression kit, which i shipped back the day later.
The email contact was quite good and 2 weeks later i received my brace.
Wearing it write now, (as almost every night)

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im very satisfied

Thanks for posting the pictures. I am interested in the same appliance for my wife once her braces come off (sometime next year), so it was great to see what it looks like especially with the facebow. Do you find that's comfortable to wear?

Thanks for posting the pictures. I am interested in the same appliance for my wife once her braces come off (sometime next year), so it was great to see what it looks like especially with the facebow. Do you find that's comfortable to wear?

I had to make some adjustments, to make it comfortable, meaning a Dremel tool and some high grade sand paper.
The bite was a bit off so both upper and lower brace would not be flat if I bite down. And my mouth would be open a lot...
The angle between them i had to adjust.

Now its very comfortable. I can close my lips  and i sleep with the twinbock and headgear on as well. No problem.
Its nice that you can adjust how tight you want to have the fit, with the expanders.

Just make sure your impressions are good, then you will be fine.

Let me know if you need any more info etc... Im glad to help out.

Br,

Hello,  I've had mine for nearly a month.  Went into a nearby village the other day wearing top and bottom .  Went to Tesco and the lady on the till noticed but didnt say anything.

Decided to go to the chemist and noticed they sold wax for braces so I asked the girl behind the counter who was very helpful noticed she also wore braces.  I was lisping like mad and kept apologising spent about 5 mins chatting about her braces and her treatment amazing

probably not - that was one of the reasons for just getting the fixed brackets on a retainer as i wanted to try and wear it in public.

hi,

yes this was my first time out with them, i wore them for most of the day but only in the afternoon i went into a shop and luckily the girl behind the counter wore them also.  we chatted about where to get wax from, i also mentioned i had just had them fitted and was getting elastics in the future she also said she had elastics but doesn't wear them - i will go back to the same shop again

So, nach einigen Mails hatte ich dann doch Antwort bekommen. Die Spange kam nachdem sich der Techniker am Ende sehr bemüht und eingesetzt hat gerade noch rechtzeitig, so dass ich mit Spange in den Urlaub konnte.

Ich habe am 10.12. bestellt und noch keinerlei Antwort bekommen. Auch eine Nachricht an den Shop Techniker blieb bisher unbeantwortet

I've driven through to Leeds and worn my modified twin block with headgear quite a lot. I've been into Boots the Chemist to ask about toothbrushes and on Christmas Eve went into Subway and ordered a sandwich - i noticed the girl serving was wearing retainers  so when I apologied for not being able to speak properly she said she totally understood!

I get a lot of stares from people but nobody has ever talked to be about it! Best one was in a que at a till and a small boy behind was asking his Mummy why the may in front was wearing a funny thing in his mouth! I turned around and smiled and the Mummy was bright  red with embarrassment!

Anybody else in the U.K. Willing to meet up and go public with braces??

I obviously need to get up north sometime, and meet up with you.... definitely need to go out again with my headgear!

About 3 or 4 years ago, I was giving training abroad, where nobody knew me: I was able to be a "retainer wearer" for most of 2 weeks! That was nice..

My wife has no idea about my braces fetish, I have to be very careful to keep my "equipment" hidden. Luckily for me, she not the nosey sort!

My current collection includes:
- 2nd hand activator, bought online (sort-of fits, after a bit of filing, so I can appreciate what one is like)

- removable "expanders" (locked expander on top, lower is more like a retainer) with HG tubes. These are now getting old, (One HG tube on lower has broken off, and one of the clasps with the tubes on the upper has its wire broken, but can still be used with HG if I'm gentle) and no longer fits that well.

- a pair of Hawley Retainers: the problem with these is that I've had 2 or 3 crowns fitted, and despite filing the plastic and bending the wires, it's no longer a great fit

- a pair of clear plastic essix retainers, bought online recently: these fit well, although I did need to remove a bit from the upper when I got a molar crown recently! I had an older pair of these, much thinner, (which are pretty much dead now) and which I could hardly feel, but the plastic on the new ones is a lot thicker (1mm) and is much more noticeable (by me). Others would probably not notice them unless looking for them, and it's kind of nice to be able to wear them "incognito"... they are sufficiently "invisible" that I have worn them in town where I live... I'd never dare wear anything that's visible locally though!

- two facebows, a interlandi, a highpull, and a neck-strap.

I sometimes wear them at home (if no one else is here!!!), or when I'm away on business. Don't wear them out in public as much as I used to though.

What started my fetish? When I was about 10, I remember a kid at school who had some sort of removable appliance: I vaguely remember seeing it, but not close up at all.... and I started wondering what it would be like to have that in your mouth. Later, at my secondary school (so 14 or 15) there were a few kids with braces (always removable, noone had fixed braces back then), and I still remember the first time I got a good look at a retainer: a kid was in the toilets, rinsing his mouth, and the retainer was sat on the sink!

I remember trying Plasticine etc with paper clips, to pretend I had a retainer! (making sure no one ever saw me, of course)

Back then, well pre-internet, I assumed that I was the only wierdo with a love of braces.... it was MANY years later that I found out that I wasn't alone!

(Along with all this, but much less intensive, I had a thing for glasses and hearing aids. I now wear glasses and hearing aids, but I've never needed braces!)

It does depend on your interest and when and where you will wear the appliance.

Do you want to just wear at home? If so, then anything goes!
Do you want it to be a shared experience?

If you want to go out and be noticed, then the activator is good fun. As soon as you try to speak it will be noticeable and of course you would have to take it out to eat. Drinking is possible.
Twin blocks might be a similar experience althought some eating may be ok.
You might be wanting the experience of having to take an appliance out in public. If so, then go ahead with either and show them off!

On the other hand, if you want the feeling of wearing an appliance and ability to go about life almost as normal, then an upper Hawley is great, either with or without the lower one in.
You won't have to take it out and put it in in public. You can eat most soft things with it in and, in fact, most people will not think twice about it.
You will feel the plastic plate in your mouth, you will feel a bit self conscious about speaking with it until you get used to it and you will still feel that everyone notices it. However you will soon get used to it and it's a good one for longer term wear.

I have an activator (although I have never been absolutely sure of its name), and upper and lower Hawleys.
Activator is more extreme so i like it for occasional wear, at home or well away from anyone i might know. My preference is for long term wear so I prefer the Hawleys. Personally I can keep the top one in almost permanently away from home, and the bottom sometimes. For me the bottom one affects speech more so I choose my occasions more carefully. If I did happen to run into someone I know, I could still be fairly relaxed about it.
If, like me, you are into the "keep it to yourself" feeling and you like the "long term" challenge, you could get a top plate with side clasps and without a front wire and also a Hawley. Wear the Hawley whenever you like, but the plastic plate at all other times as a bit of a challenge.

Perhaps all of them....and you will never get bored!


What are your thoughts?

What's the best thing to buy from the bracesshop that will give you a noticeable lisp?

Has anyone had an activator with tongue crib and pelottes if so what is it like?

Thanks

Hi,

I am in the exact same situation I sent them an email today and they said there was a delay with the impressions as they run out.
They said the material should arrive 'soon'and an email will be sent out as soon as they have been sent.

What did you order?

What sort did you order.Will you wear them in everyday life,like at work and at home round your family,maybe you could post pics,I'm thinking of ordering Hawley type retainers top and bottom with wires myself.Just slightly worried my wife will be their when the impression package is delivered,she's knows I like braces and retainers but maybe not that much.Had Hawley type before and loved the feel of the large plate and double wires over the front teeth.Still not seen a brace like I had,it was similar to a Hawley but had two wires fixed to each other so that when you placed them both over the teeth they tightened on together to make one wire,which then became very tight,maybe others also had something similar,interested to know if you have.

I'm in the Uk what about you

I'm in the Uk what about you

Same as me. Can't wait to get them just want the impressions done!

Ordered an activator with tongue crib and pelottes!

What did you get?

I bought Modified Twin-Block with pelottes and Telescope Appliance but with fixed brackets and headgear tube - fits very well and difficult to speak.  Went into town wearing it last night and had a few stares - went into a shop and got a drink

I have been thinking about getting a modified twin block after my hawley with headgear comes. Did it fit well right out of the box? Do you have pictures?

Hi,

I bought the modified ones, and requested to make them massive and thick. See here the result:

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And i just love them.
i wear them as much i can and i highly recommend them.

Adivse: request of a wax plate. so you can position your lower jaw where you want to have it. As the herbst is keeping your lower jaw front. (dont do it too much as your jaw really is being pushed forward. I just placed my lower front teeth in line with my uppers.)

Speaking is possible but very lispy and not that easy.

I love the full filling of acrylic in my mouth, the shop did a great job!

Hope you find this info usable, please feel free to ask more

Kind regards,

Yes, I'm also curious! I like the look of the herbst like hinges, but I don't think I would wear the hinges in public, just the plates. That's kind of why I'm thinking about just doing the regular twin block. Maybe they would be able to put an expansion screw on the lower plate for me.

Bracejazz, do you wear them in public at all?

Thank you for that information, much appreciated!

Just ordered a twin block through them! Very excited to receive it.

Sounds great - keep us posted!!

My order got delivered to me yesterday -  activator with tongue crib & pelottes

Got my twin block about 4 days ago, it's been so exciting ! I have not worn it out yet, I've been working a lot since then, but I'm hoping to get the opportunity to soon. My partner has seen me wear it a few times. It holds my bite open a bit and the wires protrude just a bit, so it feels like I have a very full mouth. Also, the amount of acrylic is incredible. Almost everywhere my tongue can touch is either wire or acrylic, which feels amazing. It really affects my speech as well, it is fairy lispy and definitely sounds like I have a large acrylic plate in my mouth. I imagine that people will be able to tell right away when I am speaking to them. They are so awesome!

My one concern is that the top plate doesn't sit completely against my palate, and I've been going back and forth about sending it back to get it fixed. On one hand, it makes my speech very lispy, and I have some problems with drool, but on the other hand I imagine it would be even more comfortable if I were to get it fixed. The lower plate also irritates the spot under my tongue, but I'm hoping I can just file that away a little bit. It's also a pain to send them all the way from the states, and then be without them for probably 2 - 3 weeks. Anyone else have this problem?

After wearing my activator for a while it is a good fit it takes a lot of getting used to! But it is great. Its a real mouthful of metal

Hi everybody,
I just received my twin block modify, the port is very impressive, it filled all the mouth. I dribble a lot, and closing the mouth is difficult because of the pelottes. I tried with the high pull headgear: that makes a lot of material in the mouth !!!. I imagine with a facebow with bite plate this must be complete!
i had bought a upper and lower active plate, they are peasant to wear but the twin block modified is perfect !

I just received my upper hawley with high pull headgear. The retainer fits great and i'm happy with the quality. I will be ordering from BracesShop again in the future.

aren't those way too long headgear- bars bother you? I cut them a few mm after the end of the HG-Tubes with some pliers and then rounded the sharp edges with a file - now the FB fits perfectly without poking into cheeks

Just order fake braces and headgear

Can you please post some pictures when you get them?

I ordered the modified twin-block with pelottes and just sent back my impressions. Looking forward to the experience!

Wow, that looks awesome! Thanks so much for posting pictures. Looks like it’s going to be a fun device.

@carking

as in interest - is it loose in the mouth like an activator or does it stay in place like an active plate?

@xxxforce It stays in place like an active plate because it covers the upper and lower teeth but then you can open and close you mouth because it's like a herbst appliance. I hope that helps...

so you "click" the upper/lower parts in like an active place and it stays there.

Thats what i want - maybe christmas present 

May I ask where you got the hg facebow?

Hi guys!

I've ordered an active plate last Thursday and still haven't received any shipping confirmation. I contacted them but haven't got a reply either. How long does it take them to ship the impression kit?

Thank you!

 

I have ordered from there a few times. Because it is from a foreign country, I have found that it can take a while for the items to get across the border. There are also certain times of the year that they are busier. Halloween is one of those times. Be patient and it will come. Check the current location of your shipment at the top of their website to find out just where it is.

Do the expansion screws operate, or are they somehow locked to stop you screwing up your teeth?

Can i get lower impresions made with my fixed retainer on? Someone have this problem??
I am thinking about buying the braces with the telescopic herbst aplliance... someone could post some images with this appliance in his mouth?

It is a shame you lost the braces bracedb4.... Is that true that the modified twin block with herbst appliance moves your lower jaw forward?? I have just finished invisalign with rubber bands to correct Class ii and i like to try again the experience of correcting my bite with the herbst

@xxxforce The waiting process is the hardest part! I remember waiting for my modified twin block...it was hard, but well worth the wait! What other appliances do you have?

I also agree with you, totally!
To which lab did you go for the fitting? To the Lab of the shop?
I really would enjoy getting skme new braces fit by professionals.
Even the possibility to see some of the  option in nature before deciding...

Looking foreward to an exciting trip to Berlin ?

Damn! :/ have anyone in the forum asked bracesshop if you can make the impressions at the lab in Berlin?
me and my girlfriend tried to do the impressions at home with the last braces we bought, but the braces we got didn't fit.

Many dental offices will make you a set of impressions. I had some work done that required impressions be made, and all I did was ask them to make me a second set for myself. They will be curious and want to know why you want them. Just tell them that you would like a copy to see what your teeth look like now.

Zoot that is a good idea, but yeah my girlfriend and I have the same dentist as her parents, so dont know if he would tell her parents if he made her an impression for a mouthguard for some sport she doesn't go to 

And in Denmark we really can't go to another dentist place, because we have it over our health care system and you can only have one dentist at the time. 

I returned my impressions to the Braces Shop before Christmas and have yet to receive confirmation they have received them. I have emailed and they have responded saying I shouldn't worry but it does seem an awfully long time for post to get from England to Germany!

xxxforce can yoy post some photos of your mouth wearing the twin block??

Habe ihn gestern und heute schon getragen allerdings ist meine Kiefermuskulatur durch die leicht offene Stellung bzw das leichte vorschieben des Uk ziemlich beleidigt, ich hoffe das gibt sich bald bzw tritt ein gewöhnungseffekt ein.. Kann das jemand der ebenfalls einen Twinblock hat bestätigen?

I've worn it today and yesterday some hours already but now my Jaw-Muscles are quite sore and painful from being held slightly open and the lower jaw being pushed forward a bit.. I hope i get accomodate to that soon.. Can anyone comply this "problems" too?

also die "gewöhnung" ist nicht das problem da ich ja schon andere Spangen vom Shop hatte kann ich problemlos damit schlafen

Nach dem rausnehmen ist meine Muskulatur bzw das Gelenk ziemlich beleidigt und kauen etc macht keinen sonderlichen Spaß -  Vermutlich da ebne der Mund nicht komplett geschlossen wird durch die recht hohen aufbisse ich hoffe das gibt sich

thanks!

unfortunately i had to send it back to the technician today because i noticed that the lower connection point where the screw of the telescope bars is had already been broken. That could happen but i hope not too often.. So waiting begins again

I also mentionend in my notice i added in the package about the pain problem...

still today not wearing it for more than 24hours now my tmj and / or the muscless are quite sore while chewing or pressing the teeth together a bit more.. even it hurts when pressing against the tmj with my fingers.. and i beliefe this sort of pain should not occur.. but interestingly while i was wearing the appliance it didn't hurt at all.. maybe the height of the bite blocks is too much..  So it's definitely better the technician looks over it because i'm wearing it for fun not wanting to cause any (permanent) damage to my jaw...
As i've worn already an activator and double feed plates from the shop and actaully never had any pain at all before..

So lets wait..

i have the same one now for 3 years.
and i filed the biteblocks a bit down.
I sometimes sleep with them over night and i notice my bite is a bit off, but that is again fine after a few hours of not wearing the device.

Otherwise a lovely feeling. and i have been wearing it in public now plenty of times with the HG.

Br,

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beautiful images!
how does it feel in your mouth?
the inner bow of facebow was with loops/stop or you ask for them?
I would this appliance, but with habit crib...or is too?

@Twin Block Girl: Thank you. It feels great; it fits well and definitely is a mouthful and takes some getting use to but after a while it doesn't feel that big. The face bow came with the loops/stop, I think that's standard. It would be interesting with a habit crib, I haven't seen that done. What treatment have you had or what appliances do you have/want to get?

I bought a fake brace with headgear for my husband!!!
I Will buy a modified twin block with tongue crib (Or is too much?)

I'm thinking of getting upper and lower hawleys with brackets. Does anyone have any dvice or suggestion on anything I should add or specify? I was going to get headgear tubes and see if they can do upper/lower expanders so the palates are thicker...

Cool i wear a Retainer with headgear and i love it