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English => General => Topic started by: Marty on 10. May 2006, 20:18:26 PM
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To be able to get unlocked stories boards, you must have at least 30 postings!
Everyone who tries to complete the 30 obligatory posts through nonsense, spam, or intentionally reposts will be banned!
Every new movie (no TV-serials or youtube clips) counts as much as 10 posts. These will only be given if I can validate your claim. It is not necessary to give proof yourself, but you may have to wait for the verification of your claim by someone else. Please use the search (https://www.bracesforum.net/smf/index.php?action=search) function and the Movie Index (https://www.bracesforum.net/smf/filmdatenbank_movie_database/movieindex_englisch-t877.0.html) to find out, if the movie is already known. If you have found a new movie, please post it in the Movie (https://www.bracesforum.net/smf/movies-b8.0/) section
Unlock request by personal message (pm) to polo (https://www.bracesforum.net/smf/profiles/polo-u2.html) or Marty (https://www.bracesforum.net/smf/profiles/marty-u5.html)
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Please? Son many people scour the web constantly it is nearly impossible to discover new material.
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This topic has been moved to Music Videos & Commercials / Musik- und Werbevideos (https://www.bracesforum.net/index.php?board=32.0).
https://www.bracesforum.net/index.php?topic=11468.0 (https://www.bracesforum.net/index.php?topic=11468.0)
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I always appreciate when people update their stories or start another one. I know that it takes quite a bit of time to write and that not everyone can find the time to do it.
We have quite a few talented writers here and I want to thank everyone who has contributed their effort in adding to the wide variety of good stories here. There are some writers who have been here a long time and have contributed many good stories. Thank you for that. I have seen just how much your writing has changed and improved.
For the new writers, you have made a good start and as you write more, you will see that your writing will change and improve. Thank you for taking the time to put your ideas into print for the rest of us to enjoy.
For everyone just wanting to read our stories, send a public note of appreciation to say what you think of the stories that are being posted. Even if you don't really care for the type of story being posted, it is still appreciated when we as writers get feedback on our story. I don't particularly care for stories about guys meeting other guys with braces, but I know that there are several members who do and they have every right to be able to read those stories. I encourage those members to write stories and post them here.
Not everyone has the ability to write and I can appreciate that. Everyone can send a nice comment and encourage others to keep writing.
One last comment. We are a group of people that have a variety of languages and we don't have enough stories in other languages. If there are any people that can and are willing to translate the stories, please try to do that.
Braceface2015
TheArchive2018
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Yeah, I totally agree. I'm posting a story that I wrote and English isn't my first language so I understand that it might be weird the way I write, but I'm only doing it because I want to share the story.
I'm not seeking praise, you can tell me if you don't like it but the feedback is important. My story has 3 parts and I'm posting the first but I'm not sure if you'd like me to keep posting, if you want the whole story (that now I guess it's bigger than I thought).
Again, feedback is important.
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I like how you are writing. I can tell that English is not your first language, but you have nothing to be worried about. Your spelling and use of the English language is better than some of us. Just keep going the way that you are.
I find your story interesting and have been enjoying it. One suggestion that I do have is to number your chapters so that everyone knows what part of the story it is. In this case, it would be Chapter 5 or Part 5. I don't tell other writers what to write, just suggest that they write what they are interested in. Everyone has different interests and if you try to write something that everyone will like, you will end up with a story that you are not happy with.
I always try and get permission from each author to add their stories to TheArchive and I am requesting your permission to do that now. If you are not aware of what TheArchive is, it is my collection of stories from the internet that I share with anyone that is interested.
Braceface2015
TheArchive2018
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I always try and get permission from each author to add their stories to TheArchive and I am requesting your permission to do that now. If you are not aware of what TheArchive is, it is my collection of stories from the internet that I share with anyone that is interested.
Braceface2015
TheArchive2018
Yes, sure. I'd like to see these stories and glad to have mine among them.
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Howdy howdy! I was chatting with another member about the stories and thought I'd post part of one of my replies here, seeings how I think it could be real constructive. ;D I'd love to discuss this kinda jazz with anybody who's willing to chat about it!
(Also please note that I'm not looking to offend or hurt anyone's feelings, as I know this stuff is a genuine outlet of creativity and REALLY isn't easy, but I think the criticism can be super helpful because the folks writing on the forum are worth it and deserve to be held to a high standard because of how good they are. <3 )
(Was discussing my story "Managing a Metal Mouth")
While I've seen the scam plot done in other stories, I'd much rather keep things pretty positive ( and even Wholesome) overall. Cynthia's character is designed to be a genuinely caring one who just happens to be a huge nerd for orthodontics. I wanted to introduce more of her family at some point, but present them as likeable, even bigger nerds than Cynthia, but never sinister. I had the same opinion about the disillusioned plot. I feel like "Person gets braces and hates them" is a little too common of a trope. While I tried to be semi-realistic with Gregory's initial reactions to them, if I were to continue this story, Cynthia would play a massive role in Greg developing a genuine liking for his braces and all that they represent. I considered giving some development to Dr. Collins and even involve Sarah in some orthodontic work of her own ;D There's certainly plenty I can do but I definitely don't want to do a few things:
My only criticism with the "Never been kissed" story is that I felt like it should've ended a while ago. There's a grace to be found in knowing when to end your story, so I'm definitely trying to be careful about letting my story go on for TOO long, ya know? While it was interesting to see the changes in perspective, it almost got too caught up in the sub-plots and lost the charm of what made me like the first few chapters. (Also I'm aware that the writer for these stories knows English as a second language, which makes the story even more impressive, but I want to maintain the same criticism, because I think they deserve to be held to the same standard, because they (and their story) really are that good.)
An even more common thing I see is folks putting out a REALLY GOOD start, but leaving it at just a start. The "Fine Print", "Short term pain for long term gain", and "Fixed Braces" stories all had this in common. I loved the beginning, but they never got past their beginnings, so I made sure to at least go somewhere with "Managing a Metal Mouth". If I do continue it, it might come in the form of a "Book 2" and I'll label the start as "Book 1" just to make sure that if I continue the story, you can read the individual sections one at a time, making them more digestible and easier to keep up with. I'm sure if the writer of "Never Been Kissed" did this it would help a ton to keep up with it.
I truly enjoyed writing the story, and even letting it write itself at some points. Experimenting with elements of foreshadowing even from the beginning was something I had a real good time with lol
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I find myself working on several stories at the same time. I will have an idea that I want to use but can't use it in a particular story, so I will look at what stories I have and use it in a different one. Many times I will pause working on a certain story until I am in the right frame of mind to work on it. I don't want to write something that I am not happy with just to have something to post.
I might not write a chapter on a certain story for several months and then come back to it and add several chapters in a short time.
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I find myself working on several stories at the same time. I will have an idea that I want to use but can't use it in a particular story, so I will look at what stories I have and use it in a different one. Many times I will pause working on a certain story until I am in the right frame of mind to work on it. I don't want to write something that I am not happy with just to have something to post.
I might not write a chapter on a certain story for several months and then come back to it and add several chapters in a short time.
Wow! I haven't considered working on multiple at the same time! That's impressive for sure. Is there a post topic where you discuss specific ideas? I'd be happy to offer some feedback and recommendations if you're game!
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Wow! I haven't considered working on multiple at the same time! That's impressive for sure. Is there a post topic where you discuss specific ideas? I'd be happy to offer some feedback and recommendations if you're game!
I don't post many stories here these days (being aimed mainly at the male patient angle I get the feeling they aren't as popular), but I;m always working on multiple things. Some times that's just how the mind works!
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I don't post many stories here these days (being aimed mainly at the male patient angle I get the feeling they aren't as popular), but I'm always working on multiple things. Some times that's just how the mind works!
Any stories that you do write are always appreciated. I can understand your feelings. You are writing for a small portion of an already small segment of the population. You have your story site to maintain and expand and that is good enough. I have read some of your stories and even though they have limited appeal for me, I do still enjoy the way your mind works. It is always nice to see how different people write and your stories are worth reading and sharing.
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I don't post many stories here these days (being aimed mainly at the male patient angle I get the feeling they aren't as popular), but I;m always working on multiple things. Some times that's just how the mind works!
I like the different protagonists. While female is more prevalent a good male story is great to me as well. Your writing has always impressed me.
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Howdy howdy! I was chatting with another member about the stories and thought I'd post part of one of my replies here, seeings how I think it could be real constructive. ;D I'd love to discuss this kinda jazz with anybody who's willing to chat about it!
(Also please note that I'm not looking to offend or hurt anyone's feelings, as I know this stuff is a genuine outlet of creativity and REALLY isn't easy, but I think the criticism can be super helpful because the folks writing on the forum are worth it and deserve to be held to a high standard because of how good they are. <3 )
(Was discussing my story "Managing a Metal Mouth")
While I've seen the scam plot done in other stories, I'd much rather keep things pretty positive ( and even Wholesome) overall. Cynthia's character is designed to be a genuinely caring one who just happens to be a huge nerd for orthodontics. I wanted to introduce more of her family at some point, but present them as likeable, even bigger nerds than Cynthia, but never sinister. I had the same opinion about the disillusioned plot. I feel like "Person gets braces and hates them" is a little too common of a trope. While I tried to be semi-realistic with Gregory's initial reactions to them, if I were to continue this story, Cynthia would play a massive role in Greg developing a genuine liking for his braces and all that they represent. I considered giving some development to Dr. Collins and even involve Sarah in some orthodontic work of her own ;D There's certainly plenty I can do but I definitely don't want to do a few things:
My only criticism with the "Never been kissed" story is that I felt like it should've ended a while ago. There's a grace to be found in knowing when to end your story, so I'm definitely trying to be careful about letting my story go on for TOO long, ya know? While it was interesting to see the changes in perspective, it almost got too caught up in the sub-plots and lost the charm of what made me like the first few chapters. (Also I'm aware that the writer for these stories knows English as a second language, which makes the story even more impressive, but I want to maintain the same criticism, because I think they deserve to be held to the same standard, because they (and their story) really are that good.)
An even more common thing I see is folks putting out a REALLY GOOD start, but leaving it at just a start. The "Fine Print", "Short term pain for long term gain", and "Fixed Braces" stories all had this in common. I loved the beginning, but they never got past their beginnings, so I made sure to at least go somewhere with "Managing a Metal Mouth". If I do continue it, it might come in the form of a "Book 2" and I'll label the start as "Book 1" just to make sure that if I continue the story, you can read the individual sections one at a time, making them more digestible and easier to keep up with. I'm sure if the writer of "Never Been Kissed" did this it would help a ton to keep up with it.
I totally agree and I don't feel like keeping up with it.
The fact is that in the end I was fed up with the story, well, not exactly with the story, but part of it. While writing I found out that I don't like one of the characters (at all), so as soon as I had the closure I felt like I needed, I quit, but I also think it went too far.
After a while, I read the whole story and I didn't like part of the ending but it's still a story I liked writing, while it still talked to me... until it didn't.
It's just my second story and I intend to keep writing (I'm not sure if I want to post it regularly, as I did with this one though) so there's still room for improvement, I guess. Regarding the language barrier, I know I did my best, I know I sound too formal/informal sometimes (or it's just weird and amiss) but I might say it was easier than writing in my native language.
And, as I said, criticism is always helpful.
Be sure that when I come up with a new story I'll take it into consideration.
Thank you for your feedback. ;)
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It is always up to the writer when a story should end.
I always advise people to write about what interests them and not worry about what other people think. If you are not happy with how a story is written, it will often read that way to others as well.
Take your time writing your stories and take a break between parts if you need to. I sometimes will take a break and return to a story after a while.
Your understanding of the English language is very good and you did very well writing in it. I always use a spell-checker when I write and recommend Grammarly. It catches many of the things that I miss as I am writing.
I will sometimes write two or three stories using the same characters so that I can tell the side-stories. Other writers will separate their stories into parts that tell the stories from several different points of view and link them all together. Having a book 1, book2, etc is also a good way of telling the story and linking them all together.
Whatever you choose to do, I look forward to reading more of your stories.
Braceface2015
TheArchive2018
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Howdy howdy! I was chatting with another member about the stories and thought I'd post part of one of my replies here, seeings how I think it could be real constructive. ;D I'd love to discuss this kinda jazz with anybody who's willing to chat about it!
(Also please note that I'm not looking to offend or hurt anyone's feelings, as I know this stuff is a genuine outlet of creativity and REALLY isn't easy, but I think the criticism can be super helpful because the folks writing on the forum are worth it and deserve to be held to a high standard because of how good they are. <3 )
(Was discussing my story "Managing a Metal Mouth")
While I've seen the scam plot done in other stories, I'd much rather keep things pretty positive ( and even Wholesome) overall. Cynthia's character is designed to be a genuinely caring one who just happens to be a huge nerd for orthodontics. I wanted to introduce more of her family at some point, but present them as likeable, even bigger nerds than Cynthia, but never sinister. I had the same opinion about the disillusioned plot. I feel like "Person gets braces and hates them" is a little too common of a trope. While I tried to be semi-realistic with Gregory's initial reactions to them, if I were to continue this story, Cynthia would play a massive role in Greg developing a genuine liking for his braces and all that they represent. I considered giving some development to Dr. Collins and even involve Sarah in some orthodontic work of her own ;D There's certainly plenty I can do but I definitely don't want to do a few things:
My only criticism with the "Never been kissed" story is that I felt like it should've ended a while ago. There's a grace to be found in knowing when to end your story, so I'm definitely trying to be careful about letting my story go on for TOO long, ya know? While it was interesting to see the changes in perspective, it almost got too caught up in the sub-plots and lost the charm of what made me like the first few chapters. (Also I'm aware that the writer for these stories knows English as a second language, which makes the story even more impressive, but I want to maintain the same criticism, because I think they deserve to be held to the same standard, because they (and their story) really are that good.)
An even more common thing I see is folks putting out a REALLY GOOD start, but leaving it at just a start. The "Fine Print", "Short term pain for long term gain", and "Fixed Braces" stories all had this in common. I loved the beginning, but they never got past their beginnings, so I made sure to at least go somewhere with "Managing a Metal Mouth". If I do continue it, it might come in the form of a "Book 2" and I'll label the start as "Book 1" just to make sure that if I continue the story, you can read the individual sections one at a time, making them more digestible and easier to keep up with. I'm sure if the writer of "Never Been Kissed" did this it would help a ton to keep up with it.
I truly enjoyed writing the story, and even letting it write itself at some points. Experimenting with elements of foreshadowing even from the beginning was something I had a real good time with lol
I do have one technique I often use and it results in a story being longer than it was supposed to be. Let's suppose I come up with an idea that I want to experiment with. It's not a plot idea but just a scene or event. Rather than start from scratch and create characters and a setting, I just work it into the current story. It saves creating new characters and a setting. It's just a lazy habit I have. If you read "Research Subjects Wanted" (https://www.bracesforum.net/braces-stories-braces-special-(english)/research-subjects-wanted/), for example, then you see I just kept using the same story to explore various ideas. The story wandered and wandered.
In thinking about your post, I can see that perhaps I would have preferred if the result was several smaller stories.
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I totally agree and I don't feel like keeping up with it.
The fact is that in the end I was fed up with the story, well, not exactly with the story, but part of it. While writing I found out that I don't like one of the characters (at all), so as soon as I had the closure I felt like I needed, I quit, but I also think it went too far.
After a while, I read the whole story and I didn't like part of the ending but it's still a story I liked writing, while it still talked to me... until it didn't.
It's just my second story and I intend to keep writing (I'm not sure if I want to post it regularly, as I did with this one though) so there's still room for improvement, I guess. Regarding the language barrier, I know I did my best, I know I sound too formal/informal sometimes (or it's just weird and amiss) but I might say it was easier than writing in my native language.
And, as I said, criticism is always helpful.
Be sure that when I come up with a new story I'll take it into consideration.
Thank you for your feedback. ;)
I'm intrigued to know which character you didn't like in the end and why you fell out of love with them.
Sometimes, that does happen. You get all excited, and then over time your excitement over a particular character or plot point wanes... it happened a lot to me in the early days.
That said, don't feel afraid of trying more things. To an extent, there is nothing to stop you leaving the story for a few months then coming back to it and re-writing it, improving it, adjusting it. Also don't be afraid to write collaboratively, or just a small scene. Personally, I'd rather you write something, and pause it part way through, not be happy with it, etc., than write nothing at all.
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I had written to polo and Marty and they dont anwser me
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Have patience. It can take them a while to reply. Keep trying and eventually you will get in.
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how can I read the stories here? I wish I could!!
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Do posts that are compliments count towards the 30 post requirement?
If for example, i posted "Good story, keep on going" on a story in the general section, would that count?
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Generally, if a post is made that has some meaningful content to it, it is considered as working to the 30 post requirement. I think that the phrase used was "meaningful content" in one of the posts that was made regarding how to get access to the stories section.
In my opinion, writing a story, even if it is just short parts, is a good way to get to the 30 posts, and it shows that the person is willing to make an effort to contribute to the whole group. Other ways are to find pictures or articles about braces, or things related to braces that are of interest. Everybody has to find their own way to contribute.
I enjoy writing, and not everything that I write can be posted here. All of my stories are in my collection, as well as many stories from other writers, some who have sent me the original files.
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Do posts that are compliments count towards the 30 post requirement?
If for example, i posted "Good story, keep on going" on a story in the general section, would that count?
Yes, it certainly should do! I think the "meaningful" requirement was just to stop people getting their 30 posts by posting non-related stuff, or a string of smileys, as you see on some message boards.
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Yes, it certainly should do! I think the "meaningful" requirement was just to stop people getting their 30 posts by posting non-related stuff, or a string of smileys, as you see on some message boards.
Oh, of course, i'd make sure my posts were valid feedback, at the least. Ah, Thank you for the answer! :D
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While I understand and respect the guidelines and the idea of meaningful content, I have another concern. I would really like access to the story section/archive but I don't want to be a nuisance in getting in 30 posts. I'm tempted to post as much as I can right now, but I don't want to be an annoying spammer type.
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It's nice to see so many people writing stories now. It is an excellent way to get the required number of posts and shows that they are willing to contribute to the group here.
I really appreciate all the effort that goes into writing a story, even when it is only a short chapter. There are a few people who don't speak English normally and they are writing stories too. Keep up the good work and I know that you will get into the stories section in no time.
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Yes, it is nice to see more stories being written as of late. As a long time follower (but only a member for the past week) I noticed a bit of a "drought" for a while. Hopefully it continues. Any chance I could get access to the stories section? It does help a bit for inspiration and to see that your not inadvertently copying someone else's ideas.
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hmm why is the stepmom storry closed? i dont't see any broken rules?
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Maybe it got moved to the archive. Seems to happen with the good stories ???
Anyway, it seems that keeping stories "cool for school" (i.e. PG at worst?) is a bit of a challenge. Judging from the warnings/suggestions I see on occasion, there's a substantial effort to tone things down a bit. I'm trying to be mindful of that. With a site where many people openly admit that their interest in the subject could be described as fetish, I can see where things get a bit problematic.
I wonder if the rules are the same when a story is added to the archive. Maybe the rules to keep things "clean" or "appropriate" are there to prevent problems as this is essentially an open, public forum that any teen/adolescent could stumble across. With a more restricted access, maybe that isn't as much of a concern.
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hmm why is the stepmom storry closed? i dont't see any broken rules?
8. A story must not contain any form of violence or coercion. The free will of all persons concerned must be given and clearly stated at any point in time. As all stories will concern adults (confer stories rule 3), it is logically impossible, for example, for parents to agree to any treatment, while the person concerned does not agree. The only exception to this rule is fake coercion in a context like role-play amongst adults, where all persons concerned have agreed to type and extent of the activity.
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I'm a bit confused. I re read the story and don't see the issue. I guess it's your call. Not trying to argue the finer points of why you decided to lock it. Pretty sure my words or opinion wouldn't make much difference anyway. My fear is that another new story poster will probably not be heard from again :(
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Marty has his reasons for how the rules are set up. This is his group and he has the right to run it his way. Some of the members here are underage and the content of the stories has to take that into account.
If anyone has a story that they would like to write and post and it may violate the rules, they can always send it to me and I will probably add it to TheArchive.
Like Marty, I do have rules, but they are very relaxed. Anyone can send me a story and I will give my advice on the content of it.
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It's also worth remembering that Marty and the other moderators are German-native speakers, and I believe rely on Google translate to identify the content of the stories quickly (certainly always used to). It is possible that some nuances have not translated well, and sound 'worse' in German than they do in English.
Hopefully Marty will have been polite enough to tell the author why, so that the story can be adjusted and reopened (frankly, it would be very rude not to have done so!), or made clearer (perhaps as simple as the patient agreeing, despite her misgivings about her stepmother, to please her father).
Man sollte auch errinern, dass Marty und die anderen Moderators Deutsch Muttersprachler sind und soweit ich mich errinnere, nutzen Google Translate (o.ä) um den Inhalt der Geschichten schnell zu identifizieren. Es ist durchaus möglich, dass einige Nuancen schlecht übersetzt habe und 'schlimmer' auf Deutsch als auf Englisch klingen.
Höffentlich wird Marty schon kontakt mit der Autor/die Autorin, um er/sie 'warum' zu erklaren, aufgenommen (eigentlich wäre es sehr unhilfreich das nicht gemacht zu haben!), so dass der Geschichte geändert und neugeöffnet werden kann (z.B. trotz ihr Gefühle ihre Stiefmutter gegenüber, um ihr Vater zu gefallen stimmt die Patienten die Behandlung zu.)
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Muss auch sagen das in dieser Geschichte meines Erachtens nicht zutrifft und er Rotstift hier zu schnell angeordnet wurde - denn die Protagonistin ist
A) 18 Jahre alt also Volljährig
B) Die Protagonistin wurde nicht gezwungen sich von Ihrer Stiefmutter behandeln zu lassen, (auch wenn der Vater es ihr "nahegelegt" hat) und zudem ist sie ja auch zum zweiten Termin freiwillig erschienen und die Behandlung erfolgt ja auch bei vollem Bewusstsein...
Ich denke hier waren andere Geschichten schon weit über dieser Grenze als diese hier..
I think in my Opinion this Rule-Point doesn't suit this story and the locking was not really necessary..
as A) the main charakter of the Story is 18years so She's full aged..
and B) She has not been forced to comply and letting her her stepmother examine her and providing her treatment.. She went there in by her own choice (even if her dad sharply advised her she should do it) Also she went in to the pratice on her own the secon time and the treatment began in her full mind not like she was sedatet or sg...
@cbraces522 - please get in contact with marty, adapt your story a little bit for the critical passages and continue this nice story. If it's not allowed to continue her please get in touch with Braceface2015 to add the Story to his private but open accessible archive to be published and continued there :D
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I am always willing to add stories to my collection. I do have a few rules, but they are very liberal. If you are concerned about if a story will be added to my collection, just email it to me and I will read it.
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There are enough people commenting on each story, so I am just going to make a general post and say that I am enjoying all the new stories. I am trying to add the chapters to TheArchive as they are posted and fall behind occasionally, which in my opinion is a good problem to be having. There is so much good material being written and from so many new writers.
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I have to agree with Braceface2015 about all the great stories lately. The only writing I have ever done is technical manuals and documentation, and have no ability to tell a fictional story in writing. Those that are writing these detailed and compelling stories have a gift than many of us don't have. Thank you to them!
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After a while I'm feeling like writing a new story and as a matter of fact I do have some ideas although I haven't written anything for a while now. I just wish I had feedback before posting it.
It's hard to know when a story should end or which ways the writer should take especially when writing in a language that sometimes makes you change something or else it might be misunderstood. I wrote a new story a couple of months ago but I'm not sure if it is good enough to be posted.
Maybe I'll write something new, or improve something I've already written. I guess this post is just because I miss working on a new story and stating that I've been thinking about it will make me actually go for it.
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Any new story is always appreciated. My advice is to just post it.
You should write about what interests you. If you aren't happy with what you write then it won't be your best effort. each writer has their own style and way of writing.
When you feel that a story should end, find a way that you are happy with.
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I've always said that as the author, it's your decision which way you take the story and where it should end. I've written some fairly lengthy things in the past and end up getting bored with them because it seems as though I start every story as though it should be a novel. Writing 'scenes' had been a good way of training me how to write shorter stories!
I'm sure there are plenty of members here who would help you out with English. I'm happy to do so for sure, and I know Braceface2015 had helped others. Just ask :)
Any story, even one that it a bit rough round the edges, is better than no story at all!
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I agree with Duncombec - any story is better than no story! If you feel like writing, it is good, do that. We are your friend and we tell you if it is good or not sincerely. I am sure everyone will do it in a nice way. I would like to go on writing. It is no problem to set the characters but I am not good at continueing - I mean that I don't know what the main person should do next. And what is worse, I like lisp and I use it in my stories maybe more than necessary, lol. If here is someone who likes it too, let me know.
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Thank you for the advices. I'll go for it. This week I'm a little busy but I have an idea and I guess it might be a good story.
I also think I use lisp more than necessary lol. As if I needed to make writing more difficult.
Maybe I will start with a scene and depending on the comments I go on.
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Great, I am looking forward to it!
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@GarotaFakeBR, please don't lose your idea. They tend to come at you when it is least possible to write the story and then when you get to writing it, you realize half the ideas that flashed through your mind as you came up with it are lost. It really helps to keep notes on your SmartPhone to prompt you when you get to writing it.
And then as often happens, before you can write it, an even more exciting idea comes to you. If you've taken the notes as the ideas came to you, the list becomes what some self-improvement business trainers call an 'Idea Reservoir'. When you come back to it later, you take ideas for whole stories, or perhaps just an idea to juice up a scene. Mine goes back to 2012 and has 75 story or scene ideas, none I have gotten around to using yet, as they get deleted when used. Some story ideas even contain a length story summary, not just the core ideas.
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I miss the stories that used to be online in the early 2000's/90's. That makes me feel old, lol.
I'm trying to get the guts to write one myself. I love the more realistic ones that make you nervous it could happen to you.
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I have been collecting stories since the days of dial-up internet. I have quite a few stories that I haven't added yet simply because they need a lot of work to get them into readable shape.
It takes a lot of work to update them, which I am happy to do.
Recently I have been asked for access to my collection by people who not been participating in the forum. Since I have many of the stories from the forum in my collection, I do ask that people show some form of willingness to participate. I always encourage people to try writing, as it is a good way to get enough posts to gain access to the stories section.
There are other ways to get posts such as posting links to pictures and videos. If people are trying to get around the minimum post requirement by asking me for access to my collection, it doesn't work that way. I have to see some form of meaningful participation.
To all the people who are writing stories, thank you for your contribution to making this a better place. Just because you gain access to the stories section does not mean that you should stop writing. Most of the stories in there have been written by people after they have been granted access. Writers like Sparky, m1090y, Duncombec, JonJon and the numerous others that continue to write stories are who make the stories section what it is.
There is an active German language section with some good writers as well. A few have added stories that they have translated into English, which I am very thankful for, as I know how much effort it takes.
I am always willing to help a writer by proofreading their story and making suggestions on what changes I feel should be made. It may take me a few days before I have the time, but I will do my best to get it done.
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It is important that we acknowledge the work that writers put into writing their stories for us to read. Even just saying that we have read a chapter is helpful and commenting on something that you liked is even better. Sometimes a writer just needs to hear that other people are taking the time to say something about their story to continue working on adding to it.
There are a lot of good stories that have been started and then left unfinished because people didn't say anything. To everyone who has worked on and is working on a story or has left one unfinished, I personally appreciate the effort that you have put into your story and encourage you to keep working on it.
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It is important that we acknowledge the work that writers put into writing their stories for us to read. Even just saying that we have read a chapter is helpful and commenting on something that you liked is even better. Sometimes a writer just needs to hear that other people are taking the time to say something about their story to continue working on adding to it.
There are a lot of good stories that have been started and then left unfinished because people didn't say anything. To everyone who has worked on and is working on a story or has left one unfinished, I personally appreciate the effort that you have put into your story and encourage you to keep working on it.
That's good to know, especially since it's probably so rare compared to the amount of views. Of someone had wanted to publish their own experience is their a preferred format or method to use?
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It is important that we acknowledge the work that writers put into writing their stories for us to read. Even just saying that we have read a chapter is helpful and commenting on something that you liked is even better. Sometimes a writer just needs to hear that other people are taking the time to say something about their story to continue working on adding to it.
There are a lot of good stories that have been started and then left unfinished because people didn't say anything. To everyone who has worked on and is working on a story or has left one unfinished, I personally appreciate the effort that you have put into your story and encourage you to keep working on it.
Absolutely well said!
As an writer, it really does make you feel quite negative when you've spent time trying to write something which you hope that others actually enjoy, to get no feedback. Yes, I've had more than a couple of stories that just got left because of a complete lack of feedback... (for example, "Nanites": the unfortunate thing for you readers is that story was going to turn into something with some quite severe braces, to fix the major problems caused by the nanites going wrong!).
If we compare longer braces stories with maybe longer sex stories: the characters are NOT going to be having sex in EVERY chapter, and so it is with braces stories, so please do try to remember that. Sometimes a non-braces chapter is just fun in its own right, sometimes it's there as a set-up for something later on (and I can promise that in my current story, that will happen more than once!). There are MANY unwritten chapters for many of my stories, that never got written simply because they were "normal bits of story", without braces. I could have written another 20 or 30 chapters for "Jennifer loves singing"... They would have been fun to write, hopefully interesting to read, but wouldn't have contained anything about braces!!!!! Well, maybe I would have had Jennifer wearing her headgear boldly in public!
So, yes, even something simple like "keep it going" is enough to let us writers know that we're vaguely getting it right!
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Caution: long rambling ahead!
Absolutely well said!
It hit home, yes.
I feel a bit conflicted writing this post. After all, I am one of those, who consume with rapture basically everything that is written, but fail to give a little token of appreciation back.
As I fancy myself a part-time writer, I want to try and offer my point-of-view from both sides.
I do know and understand the importance of being earnest giving and receiving feedback. Without it, the author doesn't know - can't know - what is going on.
The viewcount may give a rough indication, whether a particular story is well received or not. But that counter does not give any vital information, because it is just that: The number of accesses of that story.
Therein is not contained, whether the people opening that page actually read the story, whether they enjoyed it or if it is not their cup-of-tea. Do they want to continue reading or could this story - for all the reader cares - just dwindle away? No one knows if there is no feedback.
This can be quite discouraging. I imagine that this holds true especially for new writers, who might proudly venture out with their first creation and could end up feeling quashed and dismissed.
Seasoned writers in this forum may know what to expect and may even have come to terms with this a bit. But it doesn't make it much easier, I guess.
So, yes, even something simple like "keep it going" is enough to let us writers know that we're vaguely getting it right!
As sparky said, any kind of interaction is important; if you're happy with the way the story develops, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a simple "nice story. please continue"
But if you feel that there is something wrong or out of place; if you cannot enjoy the story for whatever reason: To take your time and shoot the author a short note is tremendously appreciated.
I know and I understand that, and yet - as a reader - I am silent. Why? Of course, I can only speak for myself! It is a really strange feeling that I cannot put into words easily. So I may very well be misunderstood!
Firstly: It takes time. It takes some seconds to click the "Antwort/reply" button, type in some words and send it off. Yes, I understand this not to be a good reason at all. But this is the reason that most often keeps me from answering. Especially when combined with:
Secondly: Please do understand, that this is written from my standpoint as a reader, not as an author!
To me, a simple "nice story, please continue" is incredibly hollow.
Indeed, it is almost cynical in it's shortness. Depending on their writing speed, the author may have spend an hour to several days per chapter and has written hundreds upon hundreds of words. And I am in awe of that. I definitely am!
And yet, here I am, with a half-arsed 4-word sentence as a reply... You cannot really expect me to send this off as encouragement, can you? I can almost see the author rolling their eyes and muttering "Thanks for nothing!"
Instead, I would like to give an in-depth review of what I just have read, of what I liked and what I didn't. But this would take more time than I am able / willing to spend.
And so I do not answer at all but hope that the "the next reader" will "have pity" with the author.
Please note, that the next thought is a backhanded, sort-of twisted argument, that could very fast be understood wrongly.
Isn't it like that?: The author publishes their story because they think highly of their own creation, right? They like what they have written, dont they? After all, no one would publish a shoddy story, right?
So it must be a good story! And because it is a good story, every author will know that their creation is well received. Because every good story is well received!
Me - as a reader - not replying anything, doesn't change that fact. A good story will stay a good story. Even if the writer is the only one to post in their thread, they shouldn't get discouraged to begin with.
After all: A good story won't become a bad one by not having any replies. They should take pride in their creation and continue posting until the end is reached.
The author should just assume that every reader enjoyed the read and just didn't feel like "voicing the obvious"!
As a writer I look back to the things I just have written down from my standpoint as a reader. And I feel like shaking my head in dismay ::)
[...] couple of stories that just got left because of a complete lack of feedback... (for example, "Nanites": [...]
And here I am, wondering about the lack of updates >:D
If I promise from here on out to interact more with you content-creators, would you consider restarting "Nanites"?
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< [...] couple of stories that just got left because of a complete lack of feedback... (for example, "Nanites": [...] >
And here I am, wondering about the lack of updates >:D
If I promise from here on out to interact more with you content-creators, would you consider restarting "Nanites"?
silver-moon-2000: thank you for taking the time to write that feedback, makes a lot of sense!
When I finish a story (warning: might be a while before the current story gets finished!), I take a look at other things to write about. When I do that, I'll look back at my older stories, and see which might be worthy of continuing.... I'll make sure that "Nanites" is on that list!
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I agree with most of what silver-moon said. As a reader, many times I don't take the time to comment on a story simply because I don't have the time or don't feel like taking the time to write a detailed comment. Many times I feel that a story deserves more than just a "good story".
I often look forward to each new chapter of a story being posted and am disappointed when I don't see one. Then a new chapter appears and I eagerly read it.
Other times it is more a matter of feeling that I have commented on each new chapter and that I am overdoing the comments.
As a writer, I write stories for myself to read and post them so that other people can enjoy them too. When I get a nice comment, it makes the effort seem worthwhile and gives me the motivation to continue posting more of the story. Even a simple "good story" or "well done" is greatly appreciated. If I am having a bad day and I get a simple response to one of my stories, it can brighten my whole day.
I have the largest collection of braces stories on the internet and I share them with other people who like braces stories. I have offered to help other writers by proofreading their stories and I have enjoyed having a few writers send me their stories to check. Every so often someone will mention that I have the collection or they will say "thank you" for the work that I have put into creating TheArchive. It brings my mood up each time.
Simply put, any comment is good, even if it is just to say "good job" or give a thumb up.
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Honestly, this is half the reason I quit writing, or producing any braces content anymore (vids or images, too). And of course my fiction stories are pretty racy and violate most of the forum rules! >:D
But yeah, most people just want to consume without ever contributing so much as a thank you, so they can go without my (admittedly pretty meager) efforts.
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I am totally guilty of consuming without contributing as well. It's something I want to get better about when it comes to stories and concepts I like. And while I havent written any stories in general, let alone about braces, it is something I want to do, but only once I get an idea that truly inspires me.
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Really good discussion in this thread.
I've been enjoying ortho fiction since the late 90s at some of the OG story sites. I even wrote some stories back then and I enjoyed doing it. But some of my favorite sites started to die out and disappear. I didn't have much time to search for new stories. I would find a handful at a time but they were all static sites, no new fiction being created. I sort of lost a spark for reading ortho fiction.
I found this place in 2018 which I'd seen before but never bothered registering. No real reason. I registered thinking that I needed to register to get "access" to the stories, but then read Marty's OP and was bummed out. The way I interpreted his post, I felt like simply giving a little feedback on new stories would be considered "spamming". I then looked at the huge collection of videos and pictures and thought, "there's no way I can find something that's new. They already have everything". I pretty much gave up because it seemed overwhelming.
In recent months, I've returned and have really enjoyed getting back to reading the stories that are available in the general section. They've relit the spark. Also reading @Braceface2015's post about encouragement has made me feel like simple feedback is absolutely welcomed. Getting 30 posts doesn't seem impossible anymore.
The 30 post limit is a brilliant idea. Although it can be off-putting at first, it's the lifeblood to the creativity of the site.
It's hard to write these stories because they deal with personal feelings. It takes courage to put yourself out there. Likewise, healthy discussion can grant a new writer the courage to share their own thoughts.
Thanks to all the contributors!
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Just over a year ago I had posted a multi-chapter story all in one shot, as a test to see how it went over:
Seeing Her Through The Eyes of a Dog: https://www.bracesforum.net/general/adventures-in-pandemicland/msg132206/#msg132206
I only got one post with feedback regarding posting it all in one shot and no comments on the story itself. I've always been curious if posting a multi-chapter story all in one shot causes some people to find they don't have time to read it all and then forget to come back to it. Ever since posting this one, I have always posted stories a chapter a day. I'm just rather curious if I came to the correct conclusion.
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I find that having frequent chapters is easier for me to edit for TheArchive. The problem with having chapters posted is that many stories never get finished if the author doesn't feel that there is enough interest in the story to finish it, or more likely just doesn't feel motivated to complete it.
Having the story posted all at once has the advantage of having the complete story to read. The downside is that if it is a long story, like I and several others usually write, it can't be easily read all at one time. One advantage to finishing the story before posting it is that things can be changed so that the story flows smoother and details can be added and removed to make it better.
In my opinion, writing a story that the author is happy with and enjoyed writing is more important than writing a story to try to please everyone.
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In my opinion, writing a story that the author is happy with and enjoyed writing is more important than writing a story to try to please everyone.
While I can't really argue with that logic, I feel that many authors may become discouraged, when there is (next to) no feedback.
And posting a story chapter-by-chapter simply gives more exposure to this story, as users of this forum will be reminded far more often.
If you post your story all in one heap, people might not see it. Case-in-point: I cannot remember reading your story, it completely passed me by.
Or they are not in the mood right now or simply - as you already said - might not have time at this very moment. And then they forget to come back.
My 2 Cents: I believe that posting chapter-wise is preferrable. Make of that what you will ;D
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We (timeandbrace and myself) were sort of discussing this recently.... should we do The Dark Fairy in one go, or do it bit by bit.
Yes, you are 100% right, publishing it over a longer period does give more exposure, and if someone misses it today, then they get another reminder tomorrow, when the next bit gets posted.
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Thank you for your feedback on this. It looks like posting it one chapter at a time is better.
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There is a new story site on the internet. Google bracesstories and it will pop up.
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Pleased to see one of mine on there! Not too badly written. Shame i never finished it...
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I've had a look and there seems to be a few stories there that are not on here so yes it's a valuable extra source of stories nice to see a new place to read stuff like that there's not many out there
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The owner of the site is gradually adding more stories. I still have the largest collection. If you have a story on bracesstories, make sure that you are being given credit for writing it. If you have any stories to contribute to it, send them an email.
If you see any way to improve the site, don't hesitate to send the owner an email or leave a comment, maybe rate a few stories to show your interest.
I am also looking for more stories to add to my collection. TheArchive is always expanding and I am always striving to improve and increase its quality.
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Pleased to see one of mine on there! Not too badly written. Shame i never finished it...
It is never too late to work on your story. Just send an email to the site with any additional chapters.
If you do add any more, please let me know so that I can update my copy as well.
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I've just taken a look at the bracesstories site, and I was very flattered to see a few of my stories present! I very casually write them for fun, so it really warms me to see them brought over to another site to be seen by more people! I even noticed a few older stories that I'd thought were no longer findable since their original home sites were gone, so you can imagine how pleased I am something like this is around. Can't wait to see more stories being given a new home as time goes on, so a huge thanks to the website's creator!
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I'm sure that the website owner is copying the stories from TheArchive. I agree that it is nice to see them being stored in a more public place where more people will have access to them.
There are still a lot of stories to be added before the website will be close to complete.
If anyone has their story on there, be sure that you are being credited for writing it. And if you have any suggestions on how to improve the site, let the owner know in an email.
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I sent an email to him last weekend, not had a reply yet....
(He has many of my stories there, several without my name on them....)
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I have been trying to comment each time that I find a story without the author credited. Sometimes I get a reply fairly fast. I gave him the link to my list of stories so that he can check the authors.
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I've seen a couple of mine on there as well I'm not bothered about it I hope that some publisher will contact me to write a book yeah like that's going to happen the more who see our writings the better
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Got a positive response earlier on.....
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It's nice to see so many people writing stories. Each one of you has fresh ideas that are interesting to read.
Some of us more prolific writers seem to fall into a rut and find it hard to get out of it. Occasionally we need to step back and take a break to let our minds refresh.
So, all of you new writers, welcome to the club. Have fun and enjoy yourselves. Write what you want to write, not what you think the rest of us want. If you need help or advice, ask for it and we will give you whatever we can.
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So, all of you new writers, welcome to the club. Have fun and enjoy yourselves. Write what you want to write, not what you think the rest of us want.
Yes, unless you're trying to write a story to earn $$$, then writing what YOU want is important. I got caught out by people not enjoying some of my stories that much, until Braceface2015 reminded me WHY I'm writing them! Whilst some people just want "braces, braces and more braces", there are many others who simply enjoy the fun of a story.... that happens to include braces!
Welcome to the world of creative writing!
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It is good to see so many writers working on stories. All of the stories are so good and we all need to acknowledge just how much effort every one of them is putting out.
For all the people who are reading the stories, if you read something that you like, comment and let the author know what you liked about the story.
Just about anyone can write a story, just take the time to do a good job. It isn't about how fast you can post, it is about telling the story you want to read. I have been working on some of my stories for several years before I finally started to post them.
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There are so many good stories that are being left partially finished. I just want to encourage all of the writers to work on them. It doesn't matter how long it takes, please add to them.
I have several that I need to work on and finish myself. I know how it can be when people don't comment on my stories. Sometimes I also find I have an idea for a new story and get distracted by working on it, and my unfinished stories get moved to my 'work on it later' file.
Writing takes time and effort, and I just want to thank all those who have made the effort to write a story.
To everyone that reads the stories, a short comment about something you liked about a story is always appreciated and often gives the writer the little nudge they need to add to their story.
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I see a lot of people try to rush and get 30 posts to get into the stories section, then once they get in never hear from them again. There are some very good stories in there that have taken time to write. Those writers deserve just as much encouragement as the writers that are posting stories in the general form.
I've said it before, one of the best ways to get enough posts to get access is to write a story. I know that not everyone has the ability to write a good story. It takes practice and you will get better as you write more. Some of the most prolific writers on here have had stories that nobody seemed to comment on, until someone comments how much they liked it years later and wondered why it was never finished.
Your first story will probably not be your best story, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
If I sound like I am repeating myself, that is because I am. I have the largest collection of braces-related stories on the internet, so I know just how bad some of the writing can be. I have also seen some very good writers that have disappeared because nobody bothered to take the time to say anything. Having another writer comment on one of my stories is greatly appreciated because it shows that I am writing something that appeals to someone who knows how much effort it takes to write. Having other people say that they liked one of my stories is just as greatly appreciated, and can do more to motivate me than they know.
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Personally, I tried to write a huge story to include all of the things I am interested in all at once. 17 years later, on and off, I can confidently say I am nearly half way finished - until I think of something else that is! Turns out I’m a details person and in no way whatsoever a creative writer, haha.
So maybe I need a new approach to write something from scratch as a newcomer to this forum. I will try tomorrow and I hope that people like it.
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I do have a suggestion for you. Try taking one thing that interests you and write a short story about it. Then take another thing and use the same characters in a new story. With a little careful work, you can put them all together to create a larger story.
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To be able to get unlocked stories boards, you must have at least 30 postings
This post was made 17 years ago, is there still a hidden story board that only unlocks after 30 posts?
Because a lot of people on here seem to be posting stories in general discussion for some reason.
I don't want to be rude or tread on anyone's toes especially since I'm a newbie here, but if you have a dedicated stories board on this forum I think it would be better if people posted stories there instead of clogging up the General Discussion board with them.
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it used to be that we writers only posted stories in the "Club" board, but decided to make them more publicly available by posting them in here.
I don't really see it as a big deal, especially as most of the stories have "Story" in in their subject line....
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I post my stories in both sections, it just depends on the level of maturity needed to read the story.
When I first came to the forum, it was to read the stories. I followed the rules to gain access to the club section. Many other people have complained about needing to gain access to the club section to read the stories.
This is the first time I have seen someone complain about there being too many stories in the general section, and I don't think there is any rule about where the stories are to be posted. I encourage people to write a story to get enough posts to gain access to the club section. It is a good way to show that they are contributing in a meaningful manner.
I know that many people go through the old posts and answer the ones about age, country of residence, how they became interested in braces, etc, just to get to thirty posts. I did the same thing when I first came here.
I find that there are quite a few people with good stories in their heads who don't have access to the club section yet. Use some of those thirty posts to show us what you can do to contribute to the growing number of stories in the Forum.
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Why have a story club at all if people just post stories in General Discussion? What's the point?
Personally I'm here for interesting discussions not to read stories and having to scroll through endless stories I don't want to read I personally find really annoying, no offence.
Why is this story club secret anyway?
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There are many reasons for the Forum. For some people it is the stories, others come here for the pictures and videos, some others come here for the discussion.
Just pick the posts you want to read and ignore the posts you are not interested in.
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The club is secret because like Braceface2015 or I, many people came here for the stories. Marty and polo want people to contribute to the forum and not just suck up all the stories. They saw putting in a club section as the best option. Many of the writers writing stories posted in the general area have not asked to be in or just don’t want to post their stories in the club section for whatever the reason. Others just want to give the public something to read.
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Why have a story club at all if people just post stories in General Discussion? What's the point?
Personally I'm here for interesting discussions not to read stories and having to scroll through endless stories I don't want to read I personally find really annoying, no offence.
Why is this story club secret anyway?
It DOES help to keep out the trolls.... but as BF2015 said, the stories there tend to be a little more "mature" in their themes
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I would like to encourage anyone who reads the stories in the general area to ask Marty to create a place for the new writers to post their stories. Not everyone has access to the club section yet, and writing stories is a good way to get enough posts to gain access.
I have sent Marty a message asking for this, and as has been pointed out, not everyone wants to read the stories. I personally don't check out the videos that are posted, but do appreciate all the people who do post them and the effort it takes to find them.
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There have been so many people posting stories lately that I am going to make one post to cover them all.
Thank you to everyone that has added to their stories or started a new one. I know how much effort it takes to create the stories.
I have fallen behind in adding them to TheArchive and I am working to reduce the number of chapters I am behind. It is a very nice problem to have.
To everyone who reads the stories, a brief comment about something you enjoyed in one of the stories is always appreciated.
If anyone is thinking of writing a story, go ahead and do it. Everyone who is writing a story now started at the same place, at the beginning of their first story. Don't worry about being good enough, your first story probably won't be your best and you will get better as you write more.
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Happy holidays, everyone.
I want to say thank you to everyone who has posted a story or a chapter to a story. I know how much effort and time it takes to write and I appreciate what you have done.
To those who have commented on the stories, thank you for your comments, they mean more than you know to the story writers. A simple kind comment goes a long way to helping create the stories we enjoy.
To everyone who has used TheArchive, thank you for using it, it makes what I do worthwhile. TheArchive wouldn't be what it is without the contributions of everyone who writes a story. It means a lot to me when I see someone mention having read something I have added to the collection or have used it to find a story they thought they had lost.
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And a Merry Christmas to you all from me too! I'm currently taking a break with family...
A couple of years ago, I got a bit disheartened because I wrote stories, and no one ever commented. But then I realised that quite a lot of people DO read my stories (you may have spotted that more recently there's a number at the bottom of each post... that lets me capture number of views, and number if posts. The first seems to be quite big, the second quite small... and I'm ok with that!)
My stories are not braces stories, they are stories that, every so often, include braces, and many of you are ok with that, so the stories will continue. What you don't realise is that the number of crazy ideas I get for, for example, the CJDL girls, is big, they get to do quite a few things you never read about. Like did you realise that at some point in the next couple of years of the CJDL timeline, Linda has a kid, who got adopted, and in 18 years time, she will meet with her, and perform with her. Like I said, probably won't get written....
So why do I post them HERE rather than in the stories section? Simply because it lets more people enjoy them. I too suggested to Marty why not set up a more public story topic, but he obviously decided not to. And he's not yet stopped me posing my stories.
So let me go back a few years. I can't write stories, I can do technical writeup and that sort of stuff, but not fiction. Then I had a simple idea for a braces story... boy meets girl at party, she wears retainers... I suddenly discovered that I could write simple stories, and enjoyed sharing my love of braces.
So, have a great holiday. If you are new here, then (a) do read some of the older stories in this topic, but more important, do contribute because (b) there's a whole load more braces stories to read over in the Club area. Then (c) dont be scared to write a simple story yourself. Base it on your own knowledge and experiences, and braces interests. Don't worry, your story WILL get read and enjoyed by many!
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At some point I’d like to find time to continue and somehow finish my ‘Holly’ story…
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Part of the problem is finding the time, another part is making the time.
I suggest rereading what you have written already and making some notes about where you want the story to go. When you have a good idea of what you want to do, make a little time to write just a small part of what you want to add. If you make a small amount of time every day, it won't take long for you to have another chapter ready to go.
I prefer to use Google Docs because I can use my laptop, tablet and desktop computers to write without having to transfer anything.