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Offline andys

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #30 on: 18. May 2017, 02:50:40 AM »
I saw a thread on reddit (r/all) recently posted by someone who wore a facemask when she was younger. In the comment she talked about how the first few months she had wires instead of elastics to hold the facemask on (and thus couldn't remove it for those months...)

This is the first I've heard of this (outside some fetishy type sites with obvious fake comments). I still have trouble believing an ortho would have made it impossible to remove, even for a few months...

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #31 on: 20. May 2017, 03:36:11 AM »
Some seem to be talking about a safety facebow and others the wired in facebow. 

For any non-believers of the wired in part look up an article by Dr Armstrong in 1971 in the American Journal of Orthodontics.  He taught at the U of Washington and thought full time heavy pressure at the right age would do the job in a matter of months.  If the parents wanted their kids to be treated there (saving money), and the case required it, they had to agree to have the patient wear it full time 'tied in'.  Patients were pre-adolescent, once permanent dentition was in place it no longer made sense to apply  pressure like that.  The longest time mentioned in the article was 6-9 months with most around 4 months. 

Not surprisingly, not all kids seemed to like the idea but had to 'cooperate' because the facebow would not come out.  Pictures showed mostly combination or high pull headgear.  As my orthodontist pointed out at the time to my mother and I, all I had to do was just not take it off.  I was 13 and she made sure I wore it unless there was a reason to take it off.  It was a simple blue elastic cloth neck strap and pad, with the facebow and way back in 1971-73 it made my life miserable.

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #32 on: 20. May 2017, 16:42:39 PM »
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http://dereferer.org/?http://anonym.to/?http://dereferer.org/?http://www.jco-online.com/archive/article-view.aspx?year=1971&month=06&articlenum=301

My roommate in college actually went to the orthodontist who wrote this.  The grand plan to get all orthodontist to have all their headgear patients wear it all the time never happened.  I met several other kids at the time who wore theirs a lot, like me out in public, but none voluntarily and only one other person who wore hers to school.  We heard all of the insults.  Trust us old timers, back then all of the dreaded bands, headgear and elastics made you the nerd.

My control freak mother and equally demanding orthodontist made wiring it on unnecessary.




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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #33 on: 20. May 2017, 17:55:20 PM »
The only reason I did not have a tied-in headgear in the late 80's / early 90's, was because my control freak mum was not there when the orthodontist threatened to do it to me.  if mummy dearest heard that threat, it would have happened.  As kinky as I am, i'm glad I missed that one.

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #34 on: 01. June 2017, 01:10:41 AM »
Wow, I never thought that really existed... Awesome

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #35 on: 01. June 2017, 02:40:55 AM »
Maybe we have proof, last listing in fullbands thread has a picture of female with just face bow and no headstrap.
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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #36 on: 01. June 2017, 08:37:41 AM »
maybe it is a activator with a fix mounted facebow and she have to wear the appliance and didn't want to get the strap wet?!??

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #37 on: 31. August 2020, 19:11:12 PM »
During quarantine I had my facebow permanently welded in for about 4 months from mid March until mid July