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Offline andys

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #15 on: 14. January 2014, 02:00:34 AM »
I would believe the idea of "locking" the facebow on with tape or a removable tie, like some have suggested.

But, no ortho in their right mind would truly "wire" it in. It just leaves the wearer open to injury in an emergency. Not to mention the psychological damage.

No matter how many stories I read, or posts like this...no matter how much I think it's a neat idea (and I do want to believe), it just isn't real...

Offline DemBones

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #16 on: 10. March 2014, 19:41:04 PM »
No matter how many stories I read, or posts like this...no matter how much I think it's a neat idea (and I do want to believe), it just isn't real...

When I was a kid, about, 15, 16, my ortho threatened to wire it in.  He never did.  I made me understand that he *could* if he wanted to.  Now I'm not 100% sure that ever happens or not, but I was sure as hell read the riot act.  I think that may have been the start of my idea of a locking headgear - no one in their right minds would "wire it in", not on a permanent, 24/7 basis unless there is some truly exceptional circumstance.  But locking it up for 12 hours a day... now that can be done.

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #17 on: 12. March 2014, 02:55:52 AM »
Actually it did happen.  I just inherited the "Headgear Hell" blog so you can go there and read the long version if you want, but we lived an hour north of Seattle, my brother was an orthodontic patient at the University of Washington Dental School.  He wore his for 9 months "tied in".   There is an article in the American Journal of Orthodontics from 1971 by Armstrong "Controlling the magniyude, direction and duration of extraoral force."

The longtime editor of the "journal of clinical orthodontics" wrote an editorial around the same time urging all orthodontist to agree to require full time wear for all headgear patients.  The original author of "Headgear Hell" had an ortho that gave a speech in front of an Orthodontic Association meeting entitled "24 hour headgear: I like it.". So I think his story is true.

My orthodontist who was not part of the UW program absolutely would have "tied" mine in if my mother had her way.  As it was I was told to either wear it all the time or it would be tied in.  Which, of course was almost the same as having it wired on, the difference beine able to eat and drink and brush easier.

I will turn 60 in two months.  The sixties were a long time ago and so much has changed, but it did happen.

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #18 on: 30. April 2014, 13:48:55 PM »
The Locking Facebow - it truly exists...

//deleted rule 1.04

What a nice to have ;-)

Can the shop deliver this?

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #19 on: 30. April 2014, 18:41:55 PM »
The Locking Facebow - it truly exists...



What a nice to have ;-)

Can the shop deliver this?
"Easily locked or removed from buccal tubes"

It's just a safty mechanism...

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #20 on: 01. May 2014, 03:19:53 AM »
I was about to say that looked very easy to remove.

It's a neat idea to keep the facebow from dislodging, but I would be worried if something hit the facebow hard. Would it damage/pull on the tooth?

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #21 on: 01. May 2014, 16:43:05 PM »
http://dereferer.org/?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWsHsnm3xpw

this video shows the above safety mechanism at about t=46s

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #22 on: 05. May 2014, 12:25:41 PM »
Now you see, if that safety mechanism kinda "clicked" in place with a ratchet, and needed a "key" to release the ratchet, like a system on a handcuff for instance, that would be perfect!  *hmmmm.....*

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #23 on: 05. May 2014, 18:26:07 PM »
Now you see, if that safety mechanism kinda "clicked" in place with a ratchet, and needed a "key" to release the ratchet, like a system on a handcuff for instance, that would be perfect!  *hmmmm.....*
Nightmare or dream come true depending on the view... ;)

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #24 on: 06. May 2014, 02:45:20 AM »
Nightmare or dream come true depending on the view... ;)

Both...simultaneously  ^-^

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #25 on: 12. May 2014, 14:15:15 PM »
will only work on fixed braces though, not on removables like my retainer.

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #26 on: 13. May 2014, 01:34:16 AM »
will only work on fixed braces though, not on removables like my retainer.

I like fixed braces better anyway, for just that reason - you can't remove them!

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #27 on: 20. September 2014, 06:11:26 AM »
Amazing

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #28 on: 21. October 2014, 18:04:27 PM »
What do you require evidence of?

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Re: The mythical “locking headgear”
« Reply #29 on: 16. May 2017, 18:14:48 PM »
I don't know much about the subject, but it seems difficult, as I don't think it is advised to excercise with it, for example