ForumOnline-Shop

Author Topic: Putting brackets on my essix retainer  (Read 1069 times)

Offline tg2002

  • Bronce Member
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Gender: Male
Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« on: 02. April 2020, 19:54:18 PM »
So I miss the feelings of braces and I thought that the best and cheapest way to get that feeling back was to put brackets on my retainer. Does anyone have any tips for this. Is this just a terrible idea. Let me know

Offline bracedb4

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13
  • Gender: Male
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #1 on: 03. April 2020, 00:37:53 AM »
I've thought about doing this as well.  You can get brackets through the bracesshop or auction sites.  I was curious what kind of glue/bonding material to use and whether I had a steady enough hand to place the brackets straight enough on the clear retainer.
To achieve greater success, lower your expectations.

Offline tg2002

  • Bronce Member
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Gender: Male
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #2 on: 03. April 2020, 02:39:47 AM »
I was thinking the exact same thing about the glue, and for the hand steadiness I was thinking about just putting the brackets on the wire before glueing just to be safe

Offline Wired_hg

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17
  • Gender: Male
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #3 on: 08. April 2020, 02:34:25 AM »
So I miss the feelings of braces and I thought that the best and cheapest way to get that feeling back was to put brackets on my retainer. Does anyone have any tips for this. Is this just a terrible idea. Let me know

I have to say I love your idea if it's something you want to do and would feel good wearing them around.  It certainly would be a fairly cheap and easy way.  You could even change the ligature colors as much as you want!

Offline napacaster

  • Newbie
  • Posts: 6
  • Gender: Male
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #4 on: 08. April 2020, 06:39:55 AM »
I know it can be done, but I don't know how. I have a set of fakes made on retainers I got years ago from the outfit inthe U.S. that no longer exists.
If you could figure out what sort of plastic the retainer is made from, maybe on a orthodontic supply website, then you could figure out which epoxy or adhesive would bond metal to that type of plastic. There used to be a website that gave information on what adhesive to use for the materials you were trying to bond.

NapaCaster

Offline lettuceloaf

  • Newbie
  • Posts: 5
  • Gender: Female
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #5 on: 10. April 2020, 09:13:32 AM »
I’ve seen it done before

Offline simcaptain

  • Special Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 512
  • Gender: Male
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #6 on: 13. April 2020, 18:23:47 PM »
"Essix"-type vacuformed retainers are made from different plastics, but in my experience the most common one is PP (Polypropylene), to which very few glues will stick. In addition, we're trying to glue metal, which is also never easy. I have found that high quality instant glue for plastics works reasonably well. There is also industrial / dental grade instant glue, which works even better, but is hard to come by on the civilian market. The surfaces of both the brackets and the plastic have to be absolutely grease-free - I use medical alcohol as a de-greaser. I haven't tried roughing the surfaces, but that's a very good idea. I'll have to try that. Also, it's a bad idea to use the thickest, hardest archwire one can imagine. Thin pliable NiTi wire looks just as good and runs a much lower risk of pulling off the brackets. I also like to cut open and grind down (molar) bands to fit on the outside and inside of the retainers and even these hold on fairly well using the industrial / dental grade glue. It's actually possible to fake a fully banded silversmile that way... >:D

--SC
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. (John Lennon, Beautiful Boy)

Offline pi314phi18

  • Bronce Member
  • **
  • Posts: 30
  • Gender: Female
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #7 on: 10. May 2020, 17:11:05 PM »
I only do that if I had two retainers one with braces and one without them.

Offline stinkfut

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Putting brackets on my essix retainer
« Reply #8 on: 24. May 2020, 02:33:20 AM »
simcaptain - can you be more specific about the glue type you're thinking of? There are some for sale on ebay for brackets, light cure etc. Also other types.