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Offline Velteau

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Dream Treatment
« on: 27. March 2020, 00:33:06 AM »
So, I've always fantasised about this topic but never really had anyone to share it with, until I came across this forum. I'm a big braces aficionado, but I'm ambivalent about whether I would like to undergo the treatments I dream about. On the one hand, it would be a unique experience that I've always desired, but on the other, I'd have to live through a torturous, humiliating ordeal of my own design. Still, if I were given the opportunity to plan out a treatment for myself, I reckon I'd do it.

For me it would have to be gradual, slowly building up for years but never turning back. First just braces, pure and simple, with maybe a couple of elastics. But then would come powerchains, increasingly more elastics, and maybe even lingual braces to complement the regular ones. Then it'd all be replaced by fullband brackets, the elastics would turn to fixed springs, and finally a facebow would be installed and wired in. After some time, there would come a second facebow for the lower jaw, also wired in. After that it takes some creativity to fit anything else in, but you could imagine a cemented, full-metal twin-block retainer, and maybe even a third and fourth sets of headgear — perhaps fixed J-hooks in addition to the regular facebows. The more the merrier.

So, I turn the question to you all: what would your dream orthodontic treatment be like? Would you like it all installed straight away, or are you like me and would prefer to pace the process to feel and get used to every change before the next one? How outlandish would your appliances be? I want to know how other minds that think like mine would approach this delicious fantasy.
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #1 on: 27. March 2020, 02:36:23 AM »

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #2 on: 27. March 2020, 03:06:24 AM »
The simple way to get molds is to get a teeth grinding guard from the dentist.  When they deliver it, ask them how long they keep the molds.  If they say it is not for ever, ask if they mind if you keep them yourself for your own records.  The only issue that if you don't have health insurance to cover the teeth grinding guard, then it may cost more than the retainer that you eventually send away for.  Possibly you could tell the dentist that you can't afford one through him/her, but if you could get molds, then you could get one cheap over the Internet and that it would be better than nothing.

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #3 on: 27. March 2020, 03:09:47 AM »
Should I tell him that I do have some very old impression from when I was much younger and could I ask to have new impressions so that I can see how my mouth has changed?   I would bring the old impressions along with me.   Would that work?  Can they be made out of something more durable than plaster?  Like metal or acrylic?  I would hate to have them get broken or chipped if I shipped them to the braces shop in the long future when ordering a new huge retainer. 

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« Reply #4 on: 27. March 2020, 12:55:47 PM »
I actually did that.  I compared molds from two points in my life after changing dentists and he seemed impressed that I had kept them to do that.   You are right that they are quite fragile and you have to package them in lots of really supportive packing material like bubble wrap.

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« Reply #5 on: 27. March 2020, 15:29:15 PM »
I will be showing my old impressions to the same dentist that I have been going to my whole life.   That should still work for hopefully getting new impressions?

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #6 on: 27. March 2020, 17:09:24 PM »
@velteau My dream treatment would start with a removable appliance like a twin block or activator/bionator, followed by an expander. I would then get full braces with a herbst appliance. Combo headgear would be added in at some point, as well as various elastics and power chains. Once completed, I would get hawley retainers.

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« Reply #7 on: 27. March 2020, 17:23:26 PM »
@velteau My dream treatment would start with a removable appliance like a twin block or activator/bionator, followed by an expander. I would then get full braces with a herbst appliance. Combo headgear would be added in at some point, as well as various elastics and power chains. Once completed, I would get hawley retainers.

I love the idea of having Herbsts, especially if they prevent sideways jaw motion. How long would your treatment take?
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #8 on: 27. March 2020, 17:30:25 PM »
I'm thinking around two years total

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« Reply #9 on: 27. March 2020, 17:56:56 PM »
I'm thinking around two years total

That sounds nice. I'm personally more into freakish treatments, so for me it'd have to be at least 6-8 years.
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #10 on: 30. March 2020, 17:30:24 PM »
That would be intense!

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« Reply #11 on: 30. March 2020, 21:51:10 PM »
I'm happy with the full braces I'm wearing right now.
But if we're talking fantasy treatment I wouldn't mind something more extreme, at least in theory!

To start out with I'd love a pendulum or distal jet with just lower braces. Something that covers the whole palate with plastic and ideally 4 molar bands. So that the only sign of the treatment would be the lower braces and shiny molar bands on the upper premolars flashing through. And the lisp of course.

Then after 6 months I'd have the pendulum removed and an upper expander with a fixed tongue crib put in, along with braces on the top and rubber bands to bring my lower jaw forward. I'd have to turn the expander for a month, and while it could be removed after 6 months of retention, it'll stay in for the whole treatment to fix a tongue thrust. The crib would definitely produce an obvious lisp that will never fully go away.

A few months later I'd get a headgear because the rubber bands weren't working. Which I'd have to wear at least 14h a day. A bottom expander would follow to widen the lower jaw. After expanding the bottom jaw all the appliances would stay in for another 1,5 years until I'd have everything removed and get Halwey retainers.

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #12 on: 31. March 2020, 01:14:49 AM »
I'm happy with the full braces I'm wearing right now.
But if we're talking fantasy treatment I wouldn't mind something more extreme, at least in theory!

To start out with I'd love a pendulum or distal jet with just lower braces. Something that covers the whole palate with plastic and ideally 4 molar bands. So that the only sign of the treatment would be the lower braces and shiny molar bands on the upper premolars flashing through. And the lisp of course.

Then after 6 months I'd have the pendulum removed and an upper expander with a fixed tongue crib put in, along with braces on the top and rubber bands to bring my lower jaw forward. I'd have to turn the expander for a month, and while it could be removed after 6 months of retention, it'll stay in for the whole treatment to fix a tongue thrust. The crib would definitely produce an obvious lisp that will never fully go away.

A few months later I'd get a headgear because the rubber bands weren't working. Which I'd have to wear at least 14h a day. A bottom expander would follow to widen the lower jaw. After expanding the bottom jaw all the appliances would stay in for another 1,5 years until I'd have everything removed and get Halwey retainers.

I love how grounded that treatment is — it involves a variety of rare appliances but at the same time is plausible enough that it could really be implemented. Fantastical as it may be, I can see some poor sod somewhere in the world having had to go through something similar at some point.
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #13 on: 02. April 2020, 01:34:27 AM »
I've never hidden that fact that for me, it has to be braces on others, rather than on me, and the same is true here.

The key thing would be a degree of normality, but with something special always in the background. Start with an upper expander and tongue crib, then upper full bands and lower brackets. Over the first 18 months or so, things would build up slowly: first a lower expander, then headgear at nights, then a Herbst appliance, then the lower teeth banded, then a complex elastics pattern (maybe with some hooks on the inside of the teeth?) and finally the headgear upped to a wear pattern that essentially allowed 8 hours off each day for school/college/uni/work, but had to be worn the rest of the time, including 23/5 hours a day at the weekends, to make the grade.

It would then plateau, with 2-3 years of this "max" level, the only real change being to wires and elastic patterns. The uptick would then be reversed, with the appliances slowly being removed until the patient was back to just plain brackets on both jaws, with elastics. Once I was satisfied everything was as it should be, there would be a long period of controlled retention: first sticking with the brackets for a year, then a year in full-time Hawley retainers, then 5 yeas of annual check-ups, with an automatic return-to-braces clause to be invoked at any time if I thought teeth were moving or retainers not being worn.

Even with a 2 year 'plateau' the patient would be looking at around 144 months of treatment from sign on to final release (even though 60 months of that would be the five-year retention period). Imagine starting at 18 - you'd be at least 30 before you could finally walk out and never come back!

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« Reply #14 on: 02. April 2020, 20:12:50 PM »
I've never hidden that fact that for me, it has to be braces on others, rather than on me, and the same is true here.

The key thing would be a degree of normality, but with something special always in the background. Start with an upper expander and tongue crib, then upper full bands and lower brackets. Over the first 18 months or so, things would build up slowly: first a lower expander, then headgear at nights, then a Herbst appliance, then the lower teeth banded, then a complex elastics pattern (maybe with some hooks on the inside of the teeth?) and finally the headgear upped to a wear pattern that essentially allowed 8 hours off each day for school/college/uni/work, but had to be worn the rest of the time, including 23/5 hours a day at the weekends, to make the grade.

It would then plateau, with 2-3 years of this "max" level, the only real change being to wires and elastic patterns. The uptick would then be reversed, with the appliances slowly being removed until the patient was back to just plain brackets on both jaws, with elastics. Once I was satisfied everything was as it should be, there would be a long period of controlled retention: first sticking with the brackets for a year, then a year in full-time Hawley retainers, then 5 yeas of annual check-ups, with an automatic return-to-braces clause to be invoked at any time if I thought teeth were moving or retainers not being worn.

Even with a 2 year 'plateau' the patient would be looking at around 144 months of treatment from sign on to final release (even though 60 months of that would be the five-year retention period). Imagine starting at 18 - you'd be at least 30 before you could finally walk out and never come back!

That's my kind of treatment — slow, long and gradual. A 12-year process, even if not intense throughout, is still hellishly long. Just the thought of having braces for 5 years, as you suggest, is already enough to scare most people off, and that's not even mentioning additional appliances, elastics, etc.
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #15 on: 21. April 2020, 08:37:37 AM »
I’d have to say,
The orthodontist would be a reassuring lady that manages to hide a bunch of fine print into the contract.  I walk in thinking I’m getting just plain brackets.  But, she puts in upper and lower expanders (the ones with acrylic), TWO tongue cribs (so I can’t bypass when my mouth is open), big metal brackets with lots of loops and springs, a Herbst appliance, and lip bumpers.  There would be an insanely long treatment time of 10 years.  Of course, none of this would be removable.

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« Reply #16 on: 24. May 2020, 06:11:50 AM »
If we're talking dream scenarios, I say throw caution to the wind and get creative!  ;D

Start out with old style full metal bands on EVERY tooth. Much less comfortable, much more noticeable. Because of these metal bands, a lot more time will have to be devoted to just keeping your braces clean, so they're also more impractical. Next, each and every bracket has an elastic hook on it, so it's sure to irritate your cheeks and lips, making them puff out and exposing your shiny metal mouth for the world to see! Of course, the archwire has to be as weak as can be. This way, your treatment time is as long as possible, leaving plenty of time for you to enjoy a full assortment of appliances!
First, your expanders in both jaws, turned once every two weeks, to really drag out the time it'll take to widen those arches so they stay in as long as possible, all the while getting food stuck in them making cleaning even more of a nightmare!
 Along with these are a lovely set of tongue spurs on each arch, made wide enough to clang into each other, making fully closing your mouth impossible unless you want your tongue to get shredded.
Now that you're rocking a painfully obvious lisp, let's saddle you up with a special kind of double headgear, a facebow for each jaw! Topped off with a nice set of Neon Green and Hot Pink headgear straps, just so there's no chance of hiding it.
With an ungodly mess of florescent colored elastics in 24/7, finally we wrap up with a bulky set of Neon Green Lip Bumpers for each jaw, just to make sure there isn't any chance of hiding that beautiful work of metallic art! You might as well smile, cause with your treatment time, you'll have all of this in for a solid 10 years! Lucky you  ;D
10 years ain't enough? Well don't worry, by the time you reach that milestone you'll be so used to your metal mouth, you wont want to have any of it taken out! But don't worry, we'll wrap it up with a set of permanent retainers, cemented into you mouth and connected by a set of piston arms on each side just to keep things interesting for you. Can't have a mouth that's too easy to clean! Enjoy  ;)

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #17 on: 28. May 2020, 03:08:56 AM »
I would definitely want something simple like plain metal brackets but with some "extras" along the way like cervical HG and possibly an expander.

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« Reply #18 on: 28. May 2020, 10:49:04 AM »
Any of the below appliances:
-Activator
-Modified Stretching Plate
-Retainer with Herbst attachments(telescoping tubes)
-Modified Twin block
-Bite jumping Appliance
-Braces with expander, headgear, elastics,  springs and herbst.
-Molar bands
-Multiple appliances at once
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #19 on: 18. June 2020, 09:46:46 AM »
More of a scenario than a specific treatment:

The orthodontist is an attractive, dominant woman who starts me off with simple fixed metal braces. She doesn't give me much information on the future of my treatment, but with every appointment I find myself wearing some new device. Years go by and she's tried just about every device you could think of on me, and I've grown accustomed to walking around with some form of fixed headgear. She starts making comments about how pretty I look in braces, and how much she loves tinkering with my mouth, and I begin to suspect I never quite needed them in the first place, but at this point it's too late for me to do anything.  ;D

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« Reply #20 on: 21. June 2020, 18:20:38 PM »
My dream treatment is the treatment that I’m doing right now. So to start out I had a massive overjet and I had teeth that were not in the right place. So I started out with top braces for about 2 months then i moved to top and bottom. Then after that for 3 months the headgears started. At first I wore a cervical headgear 12 hours a day and that was for 6 months. That didn’t provide good enough results even though I did comply. So I had a combination headgear wired in with 4 elastics on each side of the mouth also for 24 hours a day. I have been doing that for about a year and a half and my ortho has said that this will continue for about 6 more months and then after this elastics will be removed and headgear will be reduced to 20 hours for another year and then after that just braces for about 3 more months. Then after that retainers will be installed permanently. Edit: forgot to mention the braces also have had metal bands on them from the start and that I started this treatment at age 16.

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« Reply #21 on: 21. June 2020, 18:24:16 PM »
If I had to add anything to a dream treatment it would be a top and bottom headgear so I have a facebow in the bottom jaw.

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« Reply #22 on: 21. June 2020, 19:23:06 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: 13. July 2020, 19:17:40 PM »
I had braces already, but thinking of getting a retainer for fun. maybe for my girl also. any recommendations?

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« Reply #24 on: 14. July 2020, 17:13:31 PM »
I had braces already, but thinking of getting a retainer for fun. maybe for my girl also. any recommendations?

If you are looking for 'fun' braces, you could look at the braces shop (I have yet to place an order but heard good things). Alternatively you could go in for a consultation and see if there's any room for improvement  ;D

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« Reply #25 on: 17. July 2020, 11:51:07 AM »
If you are looking for 'fun' braces, you could look at the braces shop (I have yet to place an order but heard good things). Alternatively you could go in for a consultation and see if there's any room for improvement  ;D

thank you! I will consider it and maybe give it a try

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« Reply #26 on: 21. July 2020, 15:08:03 PM »
Heres my general preferences:

I'd want braces, just regular ones to start out with, but as time goes on, more and more appliances get added. Expanders, cemented twin blocks, a herbst, tongue crib, bite plate and/or a face bow(s). My personal favourite is definitely a cemented twin block, but problems arise as things like bite plates dont work with them.

So either I'd go for overall:
Braces that have Double expanders with cemented twin blocks, a tongue crib, forsus/herbst and headgear

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Braces with double expanders, a bite plate, headgear and a herbst

As for removable appliances, definitely a van beek is up there.

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« Reply #27 on: 25. July 2020, 17:36:29 PM »
Actually, just found out about an EVAA appliance, which is a fixed activator. That's definitely something I'd want.

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« Reply #28 on: 18. August 2020, 01:30:23 AM »
I'd love this treatment both on myself & on someone else. First of all the treatment would have to begin after high school and not in middle school when I had mine (which was much simpler than this); I'd get top and bottom expanders to twist every day for a month + top brackets (whether normal or self-ligating, idc, I really like both as long as they're metal). The top expander is the type that has four molar bands and a metal wire that runs behind my upper teeth, bulky enough to leave a slight lisp even after I've gotten used to it, reinforced by the bottom expander too. After a couple of months the bottom braces would go in. I'd use blue powerchains to close the gaps the expanders left, as I start wearing a combination headgear with blue straps for 12-14hrs a day for the next year. Then would begin two years of elastic wear in various combinations, which would require hooks to be placed here and there on my wires, always covered by a blue powerchain as I like it. The two bulky expanders would stay in place until the last day bc the dentist fears the elastics could destabilize my mouth or sth, so the appliances must stay in. This would be a dream lmao, I'd literally download dating apps and upload pics of myself smiling just to attract braces lovers & surprise them with all the hardware (;

(In reality I had a slight underbite which they quickly fixed with regular class III elastics, so for this story to be realistic I'd have to get a facemask, which I don't disdain at all either, I just prefer the other headgears.)

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« Reply #29 on: 26. August 2020, 17:31:29 PM »
When I had twin blocks I found them pretty cool and loved every minute of wearing them. I’d really want to try a fraenkel appliance and a van beek activator, maybe others as well. I also like the thought of a lot of fixed metal appliances from tongue cribs to molar bands. I’d also love to try headgear as well, although unfortunately I think all of this is just out of reach for me

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« Reply #30 on: 26. August 2020, 20:59:02 PM »
My Dream Treatment had to start slowly with a Twin Block + Headgear with Neck- and Head-Straps
Starting for the first two weeks with 8 hours at night, the next two weeks with 12 hours, the next two weeks with16 hours and after that with23 hours for 1 1/2 years

After this I would become a Palatal Expander for upper and lower jaw for 3 months,
after this time I would get herbst together with the expanders,
after this time I would get a facemask together with the expanders for at least 2 years.

Followed by metal braces for 5 years with a lot of combinations of elastics and powerchain, together with a Interlandi headgear for the whole time

After the braces are removed, I have to wear a hawley retainer for the first year 23h a day, after that another year 16h a day and for the rest of my life 12h a day

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« Reply #31 on: 31. August 2020, 19:24:49 PM »
I always wonder if "dream treatment" means that people would actually like to do that given the chance or if it's just that they like to fantasize about it, but would "chicken out" if actually given the chance...  :D

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« Reply #32 on: 31. August 2020, 23:51:59 PM »
I have many "dream treatments" that I'd like to experience, so I end up writing stories that include some of them.

It's interesting that, over the years, the details of my desires have changed. Initially I had a thing about removable braces, and the feel of the plastic in the mouth - I wanted to experience removable braces, and having bought some removables, I have had that experience (albeit not from a proper orthodontist!).

From that I wanted to see what headgear would be like, and I've also experienced that too.

So what's left? Well, in one of my recent stories, the main character is getting some quite different braces - fake brackets with a herbst and a tongue crib.... that would be something to experience. Another think I'd like to try is something that same character is also trying : twin blocks.

So, for my dream treatment, I'd need to get some upper teeth that stick out a bit, and a lower jaw that needs pushing out. Probably with some other crooked teeth!

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« Reply #33 on: 05. September 2020, 05:54:52 AM »
For me, this is mostly fantasy. I would love to actually experience this, but not as myself (if that makes any sense?)

It would start with a fixed tongue crib 10 months that gives me a noticeable lisp, but nothing visible except a bit of metal behind my front teeth.

Then I would get upper and lower brackets and within a few weeks of those, headgear (cervical 23 hours a day, high pull 16 hours a day). In this fantasy the ortho would wire it in for the first few weeks to force me to get used to wearing it in public. Both headgear straps would be the safety-strap style with the multiple holes. I would still have the fixed tongue crib. This would last a year.

Next the headgear times are lowered (cervical 16 hours a day only). After another 8-10 months, I only need to wear the headgear at night for another year.

Once done with the headgear, I keep the upper and lower brackets and get multiple elastics. Still have the tongue crib.

After that I would get some hawleys to wear 8 hours a day, and a really complex appliance to wear the remaining 16 (something like this http://dereferer.org/?https://www.bracesshop.com/de/funktionelle-geraete/38/aktivator-mit-zungengitter-und-pelotten but designed to retain rather than move my teeth).

After two years I would only need to wear the appliance at night, and hawleys a few times a month. This would go on indefinitely, or until I need braces again.

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« Reply #34 on: 02. October 2020, 22:34:08 PM »
Personally, I have a few dream treatments, ranging from the one I would undergo tomorrow if I could to the crazy fantasy one I wouldn't commit to in real life/outside of my mind.

For one of these, I'd like a "treatment" that would allow me to use most appliances on a trial basis with little commitment (meaning I'd use something for a weekend in but not go out for everyday wear).

My realistic treatment would be metal braces/elastics and maybe one additional device like bite blocks or maybe a tongue crib, since that would probably fix what problems are going on (I've never been told I need them to fix my bite, unlike my younger siblings)

But the crazy fantasy treatment I'd only want in my dreams would go as follows. I'd be committed to it for an extended amount of time, and it would happen as a complete surprise. I'd go into a new dentist office (which I later learn does ortho work too) thinking I'm going for routine dental work, and end up with an expander for each jaw, lip bumpers, and braces on the first visit. Alternatively, braces and a functional appliance that has an expansion element and would restrict contact my lips/cheeks make with my mouth would be used this first visit. Over time the orthodontist (who is definitely is loving every moment working on me and seeing me squirm) will add a tongue crib, a herbst, and bite blocks/bite plate. After a year or two of this I'll start getting the appliances off, probably in an order that allows my lips to touch again. I'd be thinking I'm approaching the end of treatment, when I'll be surprised with 2 facebows wired in. After another year of this, I'll finally move to just braces, elastics, and a device that will hold my jaws in the position they had been moved to. When the braces come off, I'll keep the rigid jaw devices and receive hawleys as my retention plan.

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« Reply #35 on: 04. October 2020, 02:19:01 AM »
good way to think about your dream treatment.

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« Reply #36 on: 17. October 2020, 23:30:19 PM »
My dream treatment would be simple but complicated.
 Metallic braces, the largest and most metallic possible, in both jaws, the first month I would have 4 elastics of medium strength, he told me that it would not be very complicated since my bite was nothing to write home about, but the main thing is to straighten my teeth,  which are not so bad either.
 In the second he looks at something curious, and that is that my teeth did not move at all, but he decides to shut up and puts some strong elastics on me and tells me to use them in an almost scolding tone and puts the arch as tight as possible.  Until the third appointment, where I would put on the cervical headgear for the lower jaw, he would tell me that he planned to give it to me at 6 months but due to little progress, he preferred to give it to me now, I would have to wear it for today all day and  not take it off until tomorrow morning and that I would have to go to the fit with the position at every appointment and wear it like today, all day until morning and I would have to wear it for about 12 hours, and she suspecting that I am not wearing my elastics when  actually if I use them.
 The fourth month arrives, and see that my teeth did move but very little, she still thinks that I do not use my elastics or the headgear, so it increases me to 14 hours.
 On the fifth date, she realizes that they did move a little more, but almost nothing.
 The orthodontist was already getting tired of my "indiscipline" and extended me to 18 hours, I was already claiming that if I was using everything that he asked me to hide, since he was enjoying it, but he told me that he would see the results in  the next appointment.
 In the sixth, look at my progress but exactly the same, very slow, he scolds me and I swore that I was using everything to the letter and it is true, so he decides to take some tests that are only done to people with serious problems.  And she tells me that I have a problem with my gums, which makes them almost as hard as stone.  In childhood it is not noticeable since one is at a developmental age, but I remember (in history), that my permanent teeth did not come out correctly until I was 15 years old.  This is beneficial if my treatment had been done when I was a child, as I would not need retainers.  But in adults it would be torture, since the teeth hardly move.  so she gives me two options.  Either I end my treatment and keep my teeth as they are, which are not so bad, or I continue with my treatment but it would be a treatment in which I would have to use connected and combined headgear 24/7 and at least 8 elastics of the super strong  and that I would not know when it would end but at least 4 would be using headgear and that I would also have to go once a week.  I told him that I would continue with my treatment, so I went to the chair to connect the headgear and remove 4 premolars or else, my treatment would last twice as long, I said no at first but he told me it was that or  surgery, and for no reason did he want surgery and he said goodbye, he would be like that for 6 months.
 At one year old, she sees that my progress has been according to expectations, but that she needs another headgear to be placed on my upper jaw, since after extraction, the upper molars have not moved at all with the elastics.  and now I would have 2 headgears connected for a year, people saw me very strange, but I was happy, with a very strong pain but happy.
 In the second year, he tells me that the headgears are no longer necessary, so he disconnects them, and gives me a face mask, and he told me that I would have to wear it for 12 hours on the upper jaw for 6 months, since only  I needed to go a little further back but not much.  I ignored it and used it for 24 hours.
 It seems too strange to her, that we were struggling to get my teeth to move more than they should and out of nowhere, and after 3 months she suspended the mask and put power chains on me but I ignored her and kept using it.  When the 6 months were up, she was frustrated because my teeth got worse and I told her the truth, and I justified myself saying that it would be faster and of course, she did not like it at all, but she said that in a way it helped, since it  I was going to put the headgears back on but for only 18 hours and 1 year, now we are 6 months late, I apologize and go to the chair to put on both headgears, but the upper one would be connected due to the face mask and the  lower arch I would use it 18 hours for 6 months waiting for results, (by the way, I would continue with strong elastics throughout this time and the arch as strong as ever).
 The 6 months passed and progress was made, but now he tells me that the headgear (both) would use them for 12 hours as retention, and that he would put a face mask with elastics on my canines for the other 12 hours, since due to the  wearing the power chains, my canines were going backwards, but to avoid the face mask happening again, now I would have to go with it every day as follows, the headgears would wear them overnight past the  12 hours, I go to the office and he puts the face mask on me for the other 12 hours until the night where I would put on the headgear and in the morning I would put on the face mask and as for the arches, I would tighten them according to need  but I would do it one day yes and one day no, but it would charge me the same as always, once a week but I would go every day, and I was like that for a year and a half, and even at Christmas and New Years I went, (It was the period  longer but more pleasant of my treatment).
 I take off my face mask, but I would keep the headgear for 12 hours of vigor plus the day I have to go to consultation, by the way, from now on, I will go once a week again, and she told me  that technically my teeth are already straight, but as my gums are unruly apart from being hard, I would have to be with braces for two years as a retainer and headgear as usual, or with a common patient, at most it is 6 months with power  chains and the retainer, but since I am not an ordinary patient, I have to get my gums to assimilate their new position, and that takes time but I would no longer require the elastics.
 He spends the first year of both with the braces and puts the power chains on me.
 It is my second year, and he tells me that he is not going to take them off yet but that he will take off devices over the months, and today he reduced my headgear from 12 to 8 hours for 6 months and took off my power chains  , and it loosens the wire a bit.
 After 7 and a half years, she removes my braces and tube bands.  And he gives me the Hawley retainers but he gives me 4, 2 singles and 2 with headgear, those who wear the headgear I would use them at night, from 8 to 12 hours, it depends on me, and the others for the rest of the day, from 12  at 16 hours, it did not matter, and that I would have to go every month to see how my teeth are per year, and after the year, go every 6 months for two more years, and that over the years, I would reduce the hours  With the retainers, if there is a problem, I go back to wearing my braces.
 8 and a half years of very happy braces, although in the end, in retention I would miss them a lot.
 But that's the impossible treatment of my dreams.
 My possible dream treatment is one with metallic braces, elastic bands and a headgear, it doesn't matter how much I have to use it, nor the configuration, I just want to use one, although I think it would be about 12 hours or even 14 to generate complications, but I see  It is quite difficult to get one, because I live in Latin America and my teeth are not bad enough to need it.
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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #37 on: 18. October 2020, 05:32:42 AM »
Bracesbrace, your plan involving a condition with your gums being much harder than normal is interesting! I've never even thought about that being a possible complication in either a real life or fantasy world, but honestly it could be written into a pretty good story.

Side note, Google Translate worked really well in this situation. I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said it

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #38 on: 18. October 2020, 07:48:28 AM »
Well, thank you very much, the truth is, it was the only thing that occurred to me to have an aggressive treatment for a patient whose teeth are not so bad, that it is only a problem of crooked teeth, and that the orthodontist believes that it is an easy case but which is actually a very complicated one. And well, if someone wants to use this publication for a story, I give you permission, the truth is I'm not a good writer in terms of plots, but if someone wants to use the whole publication and with the treatment times, they can do it perfectly, just let me know when he publishes it, so as not to miss it for the world.
Just do not overdo the treatment by putting braces that affect the jaw, because it is a fetishist looking for orthodontics, and who thinks it will be a simple treatment, and an orthodontist who thinks it will be an easy case and after 6 months has won the lottery, so to speak.

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #39 on: 14. November 2020, 06:02:13 AM »
This would not be something I would want for more than a day, but my dream treatment would be a functional appliance with headgear. I think they seem wild that they expect people to wear them 24/7 and I think they seem so uncomfortable and love how difficult they would be to talk in. I would want it to be a surprise, go in thinking I’m going to get a new retainer and they tell me that I need a van break activator with combination headgear attached to wear all the time except for eating. When I try to ask them questions my speech comes out garbled and they won’t let me take it out so they can understand me. While this would be a fun feeling for like ten minutes it would obviously be something I wouldn’t actually want full time, but it’s a fun fantasy!

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #40 on: 14. November 2020, 17:41:05 PM »
I think id start with fully banded braces and a tongue crib for about a month,
Then an upper and lower expander with herbst appliance,
Then after about 2 months of that i would finally be given combo headgear that would have to be wired in and this would last for a further 3 years.
Then after the treatment to avoid relapses my ortho would make me wear a hawley retainer 24/7 with combo headgear for 12 hours each day for the rest of my life!
Pretty damn intense

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Re: Dream Treatment
« Reply #41 on: 15. November 2020, 11:12:05 AM »
Fixed top and bottom METAL braces with thickest wire and bright colorful neon doubled up powerchains. Also every bracket is laced with thick metal wire to keep everything very tight. At least 8 molar bands if not more. Top and bottom fixed metal expanders to be screwed open twice a day. Top and bottom fixed tongue spurs (not tongue crib). Fixed BULKY herbst appliance. Large VERY PAINFUL closing loops on the top and bottom on each side. Multiloop Edgewise Archwire (MEAW) on every tooth. Combination high-pull and cervical-pull WIRED headgear on the top to be worn 24/7. Fixed reverse-pull headgear metal mask screwed into sides of skull (same concept as a HALO brace). HEAVY reverse-pull elastics will be worn 24/7 and attached to LOWER molar bands to further help move the LOWER jaw forward. Hooks on every bracket including the front teeth. Zig-zag elastics starting from back molar all the way to the front teeth (every tooth included). These zig-zag elastics will pull the teeth together while trapping the tongue inside to constantly feel all that metal. Chapstick should be applied as zig-zag elastics will make it impossible to lick your lips. All of these appliances are to be installed and worn on the first day of bracing.