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Offline jonjon

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Re: dream orthodontic treatment
« Reply #30 on: 26. May 2016, 00:17:46 AM »
Hi Cassandra I love your idea absoloutley fantasticand sexy  you should consider writing it up as a a story for us what you think?

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Re: dream orthodontic treatment
« Reply #31 on: 26. May 2016, 02:11:30 AM »
@jonjon I'm glad you like my story, but that's pretty much all there is to it! I think I told the whole thing already.

When I have some more time maybe I'll post "my nightmare treatment" on this thread too, see if I can get some others to participate as well.

I don't have enough posts to see or participate in the stories section, so, if anyone wants to help me out by engaging me in conversation, I'd much appreciate it.  I don't want to spam the entire board any worse than I just did, and I am running out of things to say!

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« Reply #32 on: 27. May 2016, 00:49:19 AM »
That sounds great Cassandra I think in real life people find braces moreof a nitemare than a dream so I'm sure there's loads of scope there for a really great story! As for getting enough posts on don't worry youl soon get there

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Re: dream orthodontic treatment
« Reply #33 on: 27. May 2016, 20:42:32 PM »
@Cassandra jour ideal treatment is a great idea, I enjoy reading it and I would be glad to converse with you to make us reach the enough amount of post to reach the stories

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« Reply #34 on: 27. May 2016, 23:22:59 PM »
Assuming we have the acquiescence of our moderator, I'd quite like to see what people have as nightmare treatments as well. Obviously for braces enthusiasts such as ourselves, it would be easy to consider that ceramic brackets and nothing else, but I'm sure we can get more creative than that!

I posted further up when it came to dream treatment that I prefer braces on others rather than myself. So for me, my nightmare treatment would be something to make my braces look more obvious. Not in a headgeary-bite-platey kind of way, but with vibrant coloured ligatures that I hadn't chosen or brightly coloured elastics instead of normal latex ones, so my 'bog standard' braces looked like they'd caught the inside of a party popper.

As then, I did say a nightmare for somebody else. I'm picturing a chap in his late twenties or early thirties, fashionable, goes to the gym, well-trimmed stubble as seems to be the fashion, and he's told he needs braces to sort out the clicking jaw problem he seems to be having. For whatever reason, instead of the ceramic braces he's seem on a colleague (who is doing it for looks), he has to get metal ones, like his classmates wore as a teenager. As if that wasn't enough, the way the brackets are placed interfere with his lips, meaning they are always on show unless he forces his lips closed. Add some elastics later on in the treatment (24/7 wear, of course), and perhaps even as much as a Herbst, which he 'agrees' to wear to avoid headgear. His orthodontist suggests in the strongest manner that it will e more comfortable for him if he shaves his beard. Because he's older he has to wear them for three years. Then he gets Hawley retainers for a year.

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Re: dream orthodontic treatment
« Reply #35 on: 29. May 2016, 04:19:55 AM »
My nightmare would involve sticking through a difficult treatment only to quickly relapse, having an ortho who doesn't know what they're doing, and having the second round be slower and more difficult. I'd start my treatment when I'm school age, wearing a cervical headgear full time (I won't like it, but I'll agree to do it) and an activator at night for two years and wear the activator full time for one more year. Then I'll graduate to fixed upper and lower braces, no more activator, and headgear only outside of school for another year, along with full time elastics. My teeth will be all in their places except for I will be missing my canines and still waiting for them to come in. I will have been promised that I will have my braces off before my senior year, but during my junior year I am still missing teeth and my ortho finally figures out my canines are impacted and I need to have gum surgery to reveal them and then have them attached to my braces with a metal chain and later elastics to bring them down into their place. This normally takes several years to complete, but my ortho promises it can be done in only one year, and he delivers. I get my braces off before I graduate and go away happily to college, only to return for a check up over christmas break to find my canines moving back up into my gums again (doing it in one year was clearly a mistake.) My ortho tries to adjust my retainers and tells me to come back in the summer. I make it a point not to come back because I do not want to get braces put on again, but eventually, I decide to be a grown up about it and return the next christmas when my canines have entirely disappeared. By then it is too late to do anything but put the braces back on, because even though I've been wearing my retainers some things have gotten way out of place. The spaces where my canines go have gotten too small and my lower teeth have become very crooked. I get a spring across my bottom front teeth to make space to straighten them out, and springs in the gaps where my canines need to go, and am told to come back in a month. I can't, because I'm too busy with school, and don't make it back until summer. My ortho sees that my teeth are not moving so gives me a tighter wire and a lower expander to help straighten out my lower teeth. I make four appointments in a row over the summer, at the last of which my ortho decides my lower jaw is moving too far forward. Instead of my front teeth overlapping my lowers, they now touch edge to edge. He gives me super strong elastics to pull my lower jaw back, lower canines to upper molars, plus three more. Box shape around my front teeth and box shape around my molars, one on either side.

I make it back for an appointment in the fall, where he says the elastics are working and my bite is fixed but for some reason I still do not have space to pull down my canines and I still don't have enough room. More elastics are added. Over christmas break, my ortho determines the braces are not working because I must be fiddling around with them too much and installs and upper and lower lip bumper. Now I can't close my lips over my teeth. He also gives me a high pull headgear to wear at night, to make sure my molars are not pushing into the space that my canines need to occupy. It's my junior year of college and I live in an apartment style dorm and I try my best to wear the headgear, because I am really tired of these braces and just want to bring my canines down and be done with it, but it's really hard and I go out most nights, so the headgear gets worn for a few hours a night if at all. My bite seems okay to me and the spaces seem to be slowly opening, and I try my best to make it home for at least one appointment between breaks, but I get so busy with my last year of schooling and I've given up on getting these braces off before I graduate and I just try to accept that I'll be wearing them a few more years.

The summer after I graduate my ortho finally realizes that my wisdom teeth have been trying to come in, and I throw a fit and blame him for this long and purposeless treatment. He should have done periodic X-rays and known that it was my wisdom teeth causing problems all along. He insists that this is all my fault for not wearing my headgear as directed. I point out that there were clear issues before the headgear, and its probably his fault I even need the headgear. A week later, I get all my treatment records and impressions mailed to me along with a letter saying he will no longer treat me. I try my best to find a new ortho to finish up with these braces. I don't want to just quit because my canines are still impacted and I don't want them to damage my teeth further. Also, my bite has gone back to my front teeth meeting edgewise and I am having trouble eating and chewing. No ortho will see me until I've had my wisdom teeth out, so I have to wait until I can see an oral surgeon. I wait six months to have this procedure done, all the while with inactive braces on my teeth. I do not wear the headgear, and my top teeth move forwards again and my bite seems to fix itself. After I get my wisdom teeth out (I've now started my first "real" job out of college and it's a very good one!) I try again to find a new ortho, but have a tough time because none want to take my "difficult" case. I finally find someone who specializes in relapses, and she immediately removes the expander and lip bumpers, takes new impressions, and tells me to come back in a month to start my new treatment.

When I return (I have now been wearing this second round of braces for four years) she explains to me that my wisdom teeth pushing to come in while I've been wearing braces has pushed my upper and lower teeth so far forward that although there is a space for my canines to come down into, it is far away from where my canines are actually located. Since they were moved so quickly the first time and moved back quickly, she is afraid if we try to move them too far they will not be able to stabilize and either move back up again or fall out. I do not want them to fall out after all this effort to keep them! The only thing to do is to move my upper and lower teeth back into their original positions, slowly, because my bite has already been messed with so much. I agree to this. She wires in a twin block appliance to keep my bite in the correct position and has me wear strong elastics on either side so that it is difficult for me to open my mouth farther than the appliance already keeps it open. Then she shows me my new headgear. I will wear a high pull headgear for my top jaw and a cervical headgear for my lower. They are both set at extremely low force, so they should not be uncomfortable, but I need to wear them both full time for them to work without further damaging my teeth. I initially refuse, saying there must be some other way to get the same result, but she explains that my teeth are already in a fragile position and this is my only option. If I won't wear the headgears, she will remove my braces and I can discontinue my treatment. I ask for a week to think it through, and eventually decide to do it after studying in the mirror how my teeth now stick out and I still have the conspicuous gaps on the sides were my canines belong.  I expect to wear this headgear full time for two years before I can have surgery again to expose my canines, and it will take 2-3 years to pull them into position and retain them there.

This is my nightmare treatment. I did, in reality, have impacted teeth (that could not be saved with orthodontic work, so I just had them removed, like what is done with wisdom teeth) and so I do often imagine how trying to save them could have gone horribly wrong. This is only one scenario. Of course this would never happen in reality, but sometimes I like to fantasize about the "nightmare" side of things.

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Re: dream orthodontic treatment
« Reply #36 on: 30. May 2016, 03:40:59 AM »
My nightmare treatment:  I would be given full bands at age 12, and be given elastics, and headgear for 12 hours a day for 5 years.    Then at age 21, I would get braces again, with elastics 24 hours a day, this time for two years.  During this period I would be given surgery that would have my jaw wired closed for 6 weeks so I cannot speak properly.  Then at age 33 I'll be given braces again with elastics and another surgery, this time I will not be wired shut, but instead I'll just have to wear heavy elastics for 3 months.  After this treatment I'd be on a life-long hawley retainer, with occasional headgear wear to keep things from moving around, and thereby needing braces again.
Nightmare treatment?  Nope, this was real life. 

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« Reply #37 on: 30. May 2016, 18:36:03 PM »
DemBones, that's really fascinating. I think I started coming up with these "nightmare scenarios" as a way to talk myself out of this obsession of mine. Kind of like saying, see, be careful what you wish for! It's not so great in real life! This could be you! With the idea that if I ever experienced a real treatment, especially one that wasn't my "fantasy" or "ideal" treatment, I'd be cursing myself for ever liking braces in the first place and this whole experience would "cure" me.

I guess in your case it did not, since you are here! Unless it was the cause, not the cure? Did you have an interest in braces BEFORE you started your treatment?

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« Reply #38 on: 30. May 2016, 20:37:57 PM »
I was 12 - I didn't have an interest in anything except riding my bike and watching a rugby game with my uncle on a saturday afternoon. 

But it has to be said, I always knew I had a "thing" for bondage games - even as a kid, my favorite toy was police sets, because they had handcuffs in them. 

I never equated the two.  Braces was just something you wore, like glasses, right?  I never knew what hit me - I was not prepared for the pain and the humiliation braces and headgear brought on.  It was very unpleasant in the beginning, but as I grew from a 12 year old boy into a 14, 15-year old pubescent teenager, and I started realising what these things called "fetishes" are, I kinda started to like it.  I started to notice the braces on the girls in the orthodontists office with me... so in a way you could say it was there from the start, but I needed to be made aware of it first. 

and yes - be careful what you wish for - there is a *huge* line between fantasy and reality.  12 hours of head gear a day for 3 years sounds great on her,e but just try it.  Try wearing headgear for 8 hours a day for a week - you'll beg for parole... 

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« Reply #39 on: 15. June 2016, 04:44:18 AM »
Ooh - this is fun.

My dream treatment would include wearing, at various times:
  • big, metal brackets. Old-school big brackets (not full bands!)
  • fixed expander, expanding actively for 3-4 months, then left in for retention for a year
  • elastics - lots of them - placed in a way that's highly visible and highly restrictive
  • thick archwires with lots of loops, hooks and springs. More visible metal.
  • powerchains on both arches, followed by interlaced wire ligatures towards the end of treatment
  • headgear tubes on the molar bands. Not that the ortho would prescribe it, I'd provide my own and use it for fun.
  • bonded lingual retainers top and bottom for retention without impacting speech

Going through the list, it's a mixture of things that are highly noticeable and restrictive, and things that are discreet and easily hidden. My dream treatment wouldn't appear to be any more intense than usual treatment, but the larger brackets, complex archwires, and extra elastics would make it more intense for the wearer!

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« Reply #40 on: 28. July 2017, 13:59:57 PM »
Upper and lower banded expander with the top screw embedded in thick acrylic to make my speech impeded. Steel crowns on all rear molars and he still appliance fixed in. I would hope for 8 elastic all over and crossing in front for full pressure and everyone to see.
Later I want to get fitted with a Frankel Appliance that is very bulky and brightly colored so it shows and makes my lisp even more intense and fills my entire mouth with shiny steel and smooth bulky plastic. I would want to have a super thick twin lock appliance to cover my molars and make my moth fully plastic and completely impossible to speak normal without any lisp or speech issue. I want full on complex appliances that are med to be bulkier and larger than usual to feed my Ortho fantasy. Way more than just bands or brackets and headgear

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« Reply #41 on: 28. July 2017, 15:28:53 PM »
My nightmare treatment would be with Invisalign
I would finally get to an orthodontist chair and get all gidddy and excited only to be fitted with clear removable trays that are minor in comparison to my wishes and I would have to pay for a super weak version of orthodontic treatment

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« Reply #42 on: 06. August 2017, 22:26:55 PM »
Love your nightmare Invasilign treatment Bracesluvr - I think that would be mine as well. It would be so terrible to anticipate something more invasive, and then to just get invisalign...

My ideal treatment would probably start with fixed upper and lower expanders, and a lower habit device to stop a tongue thrust. The upper expander would be a quad-helix type with some acrylic, just to impede my speech a little more. Eventually after 3 or 4 months, full bands would be put on, so at least people would be able to tell why I had a lisp. The expanders would be turned more for 3 or so more months, and then left on for about a year afterwards for retention purposes. Eventually, the lower expander and habit device would be removed, which would help out a lot, until the orthodontist realized that my tongue thrusting was still impeding treatment, and wires the habit device back in full time for the duration of treatment. When the upper expander is finally removed, an even bulkier bite plate is wired in for 24/7 wear for the duration of treatment.

I would definitely wear my retainers after that ordeal!  :P

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« Reply #43 on: 08. August 2017, 13:17:37 PM »
Since I've seen a video of it I am faszinated by the idea of forward pull headgear.
The idea of having to wear outer bow braces in combination with a cervical collar / neck brace has somethng incredibly appealing.

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« Reply #44 on: 08. August 2017, 15:00:45 PM »
Forward pull that isn't a facemask?
Where did you see this video?